That is what i feared.

Why? Are you planning to go round and beat him up, if he says yes?

Why, is that what you do?

Seriously that would never have entered my head; are you so wrapped up in violence that it is immediately what you thought? What does that say about you?

Or maybe get the thought police to come calling? Quite frankly, what he thinks is none of your business.

Indeed, and you may defend his word with your life – but care still needs to be taken due to the Race Relations Act 1976 (et al) which outlaws discrimination on racial grounds and oversees relations between people of different racial groups. Telling somebody ‘of colour’ to go back to ‘another country’ on the basis of their ‘colour’ is frowned upon by law.

Who appointed you judge, jury, and executioner in all things political, may I ask?

Ho ho… Since my views are different to yours I must be the enemy – and that of all the right-thinking, decent, hard working man in the street too.
We thrive on discussion – but there needs to be discussion otherwise you will just go about discussing bloody Top Gear all s0dding week… My view is contrary to yours: therefore discuss why I am your enemy. Please?

You trawl through the news, picking out controversial items, then sit back, inviting comment, while waiting to pounce on anyone who doesn’t share your jaundiced view of certain political parties/personalities.

Well done. You have worked out my game plan… I find a subject and try to kick off a discussion and one this one you bit!
Now, pick a subject of your own and discuss. Or would you rather sit there looking at a dead forum?

Thanks to people like you, with their excreta-agitating behaviour, we can no longer even call a dog by his given name from 70 years ago.

(I can imagine you sitting there, foaming from the mouth, jabbing a finger at your monitor and hammering on the keyboard! Tell me I am wrong!!!)
And we can’t enslave people of a different ethnic minority, call them ‘monkeys’ and worse, we can’t lock up people of differing religious views for no reason anymore (although we can still invade their countries), we can no longer act like gods with power over life and death – just like we used to in places like South Africa and Rhodesia 70 years ago.
Just because these things used to happen, just because such names were used at one time, doesn’t mean that it was right then nor right now. Example: is it right to call somebody a cxxt? Do you call people that? Is it right to call women that? I don’t, I am disgusted when I hear it happening YET that word was once part of a common name for a thoroughfare where prostitutes were to be found in the middleages (see Gropecxxt Lane on Wiki). The name you refer to was once common, but it is now regarded as offensive by the authorities and by ethnic minorities – explain to me why you think this word and the one above are no longer in common usage by decent, considerate people.

Snafu you epitomise the point behind my earlier post. Thank you for helping to substantiate it.

Just because you’d ban the word racist wouldn’t make the problem go away. What would you replace it with?

If you don’t think the other parties have racists and other, worse things making up their numbers, you obviously don’t know politics.

There is racism (sorry Charlie) in everything and everybody if you look hard enough. UKIPs little Hitlers are not difficult to find since they seem to be proud enough to wear it like a badge and spout it in the most inappropriate places. Have a dig and find some in the other parties, please.

Strange how no one is slating Lenny Henry for the racist comment that started this. If racial quotas aren’t racist, I don’t know what is?!

So, let me get this straight, if someone says there are not enough ethnic actors on TV they are being racist? If there are not enough ethnic police officers on a force and someone points this out, is that racist? Would it have been racist to ask about the pre-apartheid governments ethnic make up in South Africa?
Unless you are referring to something else here you are being rather silly – did someone take away your crayons?

I’ll be voting UKIP, because we need a change in the established order in this country. The current lot aren’t working, and a Labour government would be a complete disaster for the UK, as they have always been.

Good of you to share.

A quick question then. Do you agree with Henwood that Lenny Henry should go and live in a “black country”? Despite that fact that Lenny Henry is as British as you or I?

You will not get an answer from them. Not what they really think, anyway.;o)

You might get a politically correct answer, even though they’d insist they don’t do politically correct…

Saying that there should be more black/ethnic minority people in the entertainment industry is hardly racist.

Unless you are black, of course, eh j_jza80?;o)

If you think UKIP are in any way a change from the established parties then I’m afraid you’re sadly mistaken. Public school, City working, ex-Tories are not a “change” from anything.
UKIP are certainly different in that they are vastly more incompetent than the other parties – by some margin.

Don’t forget the refugees from the BNP…

I have been working since i was 16, and voting ever since.

Um, shouldn’t you have been voting from 18…?

In 33 years i have worked under the Tories,Labour,ConDem governments and i have to say i have no faith in any of them.It is all too institutionalised ,1 v 1 entrenched blame culture.

I know – welcome to politics. Isn’t it great?[/sarcasm]

I am personally fed up with the lot of them so how should i vote?

That is between you and the ballot box, but if you ask people you will get the benefit of all their prejudices thrown in too.
But you could find a party that you agree with, explore their policies, make sure their working out works out, and put your tick in their box on polling day. It is up to you whether you read the papers and discover what their membership really want, what silly things they tweet and believe, and whether their lies are as believable as the other parties lies…

All the comments about the bad things about UKIP ,well lets do some likewise digging into some of the Labour,Cons,LibDem candidates past and present –not so pretty either.

Yep, but that’s what happens. To be in politics these days you need to be either whiter than white or come clean before you get discovered and just brazen it out. Those stupid enough to tweet crass statements about ethnic minorities show that the Darwin effect works in political circles too.

People died for the right to vote but the right to vote for a decent way just isn’t available [realistically].

The right to vote for a decent way? What does this mean? Would you rather we had a system like that used in North Korea – one man, one vote, one winner, no choice?
I agree: party politics in Britain is utterly pointless because ‘they’ win no matter who gets in – but UKIP is not the answer, they are still a ‘they’. Party politics in Britain is governed by a certain ‘type’ of person with a certain mindset, who won’t change anything because that might make his/her job redundant; it is self protection.

So who do i vote for ? No vote won’t change anything so guilty of keeping things the gruesome same.

If voting made a difference they’d outlaw it.

Anybody surprised about this?

Lenny Henry racism row candidate quits UKIP

A UKIP council candidate has resigned his membership of the party following controversial remarks about comedian Lenny Henry.

William Henwood tweeted that Mr Henry should emigrate to a “black country” and compared Islam to the Third Reich.

He did so after the comedian said there should be more black and ethnic minority people in creative industries.

UKIP said comments by Mr Henwood, from north London, did not represent the party’s views.

A party spokesman said it had been “mutually agreed” that his leaving the party “would be the best course”…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27202753

Still, in the interests of fair play and spreading the doom and gloom of politics across a broad spectrum…

Former Tory MP Mercer resigns after Commons suspension

A former Tory MP has resigned after he was suspended from the Commons for six months for allegedly asking questions in Parliament in return for money.

Patrick Mercer said he was “ashamed” and had decided to “fess up” by standing down straightaway.

This will trigger a by-election in his Newark constituency in Nottinghamshire, which he has represented since 2001.

The UKIP leader Nigel Farage has said he will decide in the next 24 hours whether to stand in the by-election…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27208966

(Notice how I managed to get Farage in this bit…;o)

You don’t think there will be more silliness from the UKIP candidates tweeting more of their inner thoughts, then?

“I can imagine you sitting there, foaming from the mouth, jabbing a finger at your monitor and hammering on the keyboard!”

It was an observation, and I did ask if it was true…

Ah, I see; it’s alright for you to assume something about me, but not the other way round.

If you like. Not sure where it is written, so you’ll have to take it on the fly…

Opponent will suffice; as I said, you do not have enough status to qualify as an enemy.

You being a rank 5, you mean, and me a lowly 3…

Qualified psychiatrist, are you?

Ha, no. So no need to worry about paying for your consultation. Yet.

And maybe a word from a fellow sufferer just might help a little, but let’s think only of oneself.

You do not know me, you will not know me and for that I shall be forever thankful. Just what exactly are you doing a wonderful job of assuming I was ‘suffering’ from?

It does seem strange that you are stirring up trouble on this thread by – being a troll – repeatedly dragging Linc’s thread in and calling me selfish in an attempt to get a reaction.
If you think that doing so is in any way helping him then you are surely deluded.

We all have had problems over the years – it is called life and it is something we have to deal with, one way or another. Some can ask for help from people they don’t know and others can not. Either way I wish him all the best; if there was anything I could do I would at the drop of a hat, but my own ‘lifeskills’ are not going to help him at this moment.

Hang on, this sounds strangely like finger trouble, and it ain’t mine…

Yet another assumption; I do not “happily offend” anyone (I leave that to agitators like you.) I can, though, regret that misuse of the word has led to its fall from legitimate use.

Misuse by…who? It is an offensive word: There is now no way on earth that you can incorporate it into a conversation with people you are not familiar with without them drawing conclusions about you for using it. Under those circumstances the only person who be misusing the word would be you. Can you come up with a legitimate use for that word, one that doesn’t cause offense or rouse a moderators ire?

Do stop stirring, there’s a good boy.

I’m stirring and you aren’t answering a simple question. Guess you might be hiding your feelings by being patronising and not answering…

I already have; there are some of us who can discuss this with “them,” because they know I genuinely want to know how they feel.

‘Them‘? Good grief. Did you use your special voice for the hard of understanding as well?[/sarcasm]

But well done you(!), although I cannot call your bluff due to the nature of the question (it being on a thread in a forum). I can tell you that mine were not happy with the way the ‘n’ word has been bandied around and were quite uninterested in its history. Out of interest I had to explain about ‘kaffir’ which, although they’d heard it, was taken as a stereotypical slur rather than something deeply offensive. Incidentally it was one of my friends who showed me the king-thing in a book on racism in society.

Then why use a word you would never use, which has to be a classic case of double standards. Interesting that I am now the provocative one.

Maybe you are tired but I have already stated that I was using that to illustrate the changing of language… Do keep up.

And since when have royalty been known for having finer feelings for any of the lower strata of the populace?

Dregs of society was the term you used, I believe. They come from both high and low social orders – another attempt at illustration of a point that appears to have gone right over your head, I’m afraid.

And still you assume, with no evidence whatsoever, but, if you wish to believe the worst of someone who doesn’t immediately kowtow and genuflect in front of your eminence, who am I to protest against it?

I do not need you to kowtow, genuflect, whatever. If you want evidence then walk down Brixton high street loudly using that word and sooner rather than later – if you do not look too threatening – you will engage in a conversation with someone from an ethnic minority about what that word means to them (if you look threatening you would probably ‘converse’ with several, followed by the police, who will be happy to restore peace and harmony to the area). The ‘kowtowing’ has been done by them for several decades, where they have endured racial taunts with little response from the police and just had to ‘suck it up’. Recently there has been more of a willingness to show that they do not have to accept that they are second class people and hide their feelings.

In the first part:- Offended by its overuse, in fact, which shows a particular lack of imagination on the part of modern writers, but have no issue with its use (in the right context and male company, only) in times of high stress (used it myself, but usually under my breath, or when alone.)

Hurrah for you…!
But I mentioned it because the offence that the ‘n’ word causes can be just as offensive as the ‘f’ word in the wrong location.

In the second part, you’re assuming (yet again.) I have no wish for a word to be “reclaimed,” if it offends, but I’m perfectly free (however it might hurt your sensibilities) to regret its demise in normal everyday life.

So, again, when would you use that word, with all its offensive and racist baggage, in normal everyday life?

The new St Trinity’s movies…

You didn’t really take to either the originals or the remakes, did you…?;o)

(It’s St Trinians! Were you thinking of Trinity in the Matrix flicks?)

Noted. Playing fair.

“Gotten through” – you are American?

Once again, no. Are you?;o)