Rates of crime are certainly declining. We know that because the police tell us.

The police? Or government statistics? Or the insurance companies?

Figures please, from official sources.

Fed up yet?

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John. John, John, John. Please don’t display your right-wing biased ignorance quite so freely.

Can you imagine the screams of anguish from our friends at the NCCL – although they are rather busy it appears with paedophiles – and the likes of Liberty?

You don’t have any friends in the NCCL, even if that wasn’t a silly but sarcastic comment on your part.
In 1989 the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL) changed its name to Liberty, so mentioning both as ongoing concerns together is a bit like saying that both the RFC and the RAF are separate entities within military aviation.
As I understand it the NCCL was formed in 1934 to protect civil liberties and promote human rights – through the courts, in Parliament and in the wider community. This meant that many self or one interest groups were incorporated – including a group advocating that children’s civil liberty to experience love through sex by reducing or eliminating the minimum age for sexual relations with the claim that if both parties are in favour of the action then why make it illegal. And before you start painting the messenger through familiarity with the subject no, I am not in favour of it: it is what I understand through familiarising myself with such current news events.
Anyway.
The NCCL was involved – and Liberty since – in lots of campaigning work against racial discrimination, women’s rights, gay rights, political freewill, reform of the mental health system, high lighting miscarriages of justice, detention without charge, you get the drift. These are things that will have touched on some aspect of your own life (possibly quite a few, maybe?) so I’m sure you can see the futility in your making a joke out of just a small part of the group from 1976, quite a long time ago.
Or maybe not.

Votes for women?

I did very early on firstly because it would be illegal and secondly achieve the wrong aims if it was legal.

I do agree that natural justice has been subsumed in the last decade or two by the liberal ascendancy.

Yeah, but I didn’t count you…;o)

Re 16

….”trampled to death by unicorns “?

Well that’s original if nothing else. It certainly shows how far you are from reality.

And you and your poison pill aren’t?

Unicorns and poison pills with a glass of water in glass cases sitting in a lifers cell… Its all fantasy.

Rubbish – Putin posturing, that’s all it is – hoping to put the frighteners on Ukraine. They have no need whatsoever to put troops on alert. Who is going to attack them?

By ‘put the frighteners on Ukraine‘ do you mean invading Ukraine?

Men in unmarked camouflage uniforms occupied two airports and blocked the road between Simferopol and Sevastopol before dawn, while a Russian warship was reported to have blockaded the entrance to the bay at Balaklava, the home of the Ukrainian coast guard.
Several dozen men in camouflage uniforms and carrying AK-74 assault rifles and PK 7.62 mm machine guns occupied a restaurant and patrolled the car park and forecourt of Simferopol international airport early on Friday morning.
The soldiers, who wore no identifying insignia, refused to answer questions from journalists as they strolled up and down outside the airport.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10668357/Russia-admits-that-it-has-moved-troops-in-Ukraine.html

Although I have to admit that they sound like Russian troops, I suppose it is not beyond the realms of reality that – how ever unlikely it could be – they might be from the EU or America. Or Switzerland or Tuvalu even…

I see your point Warren, so instead of “Resuscitate”, read, “Failing to feed, give drink, or any care whatsoever” until the patient finally dies.
Just about the same as pulling the plug, in as many words?.

It protects the medics from a charge of unlawful death.

IIRC Warren, Care homes for those that are in need of same in Scotland, are paid for. I think it’s morally wrong, that anyone should have to sell their homes to pay for the right to live to a peaceful end. I would like to think that all of my hard earned, paying off the house would benefit my kids, not the State, who have robbed me, you and many others in Taxes etc, and then deprive you of leaving your family a legacy.

Have a word with the right wing contingent around here and ask them about where their taxes go, whether they are in favour of their money being used for the benefit of others… Essentially Obamacare is the same thing in America.

Euthanasia is still widely practiced in UK hospitals, but it’s just not talked about.
My experiences with both my parents and two brothers, was that the Doc would have a quiet word with us, asking if we wanted to stop whatever was keeping them alive, i.e. drugs or machines.

Exactly,
And if they’re not being kept alive by drugs, machines, etc, then someone would need to kill them – no other way to put it. Many doctors won’t do it since they went into medicine to heal, not kill, and those who might could end their careers off then or after a long drawn out court case.

And meanwhile people who want to die get to suffer.

Your sense of humour is lacking some what. I bet you love The Good Life, The Goodies and Birds of a Feather.

Um, no. I had to look them up (mostly) but since you mentioned them I guess they are high in your comedic top ten…
I’m more a Blackadder, Black Books, Father Ted sort of guy.

The mind of the Chav is rather limited in intelligence

Ah ha, something we can agree on.

so no.

Oh.

Indeed, it’s not just an American thing. Nevertheless its pretty common to hear in the news that some nitwit has decided to storm a Campus or a School, so yes… It’s not just an American thing, however there’s a pretty significant gap to the next country that witnesses such mindlessness.

Gun count per head in Switzerland and Finland is very high, yet somehow they tend not to shoot as many people in the face as they do in the US.

Look, there are more then enough loonies on here without firing up the one nation who would claim that you can only remove their right to bare arms from their cold, dead fingers. Yes, Switzerland and Finland have a high gun count but that is because (at least for Switzerland anyway) there is a gun culture that requires each adult male to be in the military reserve and have a gun in their house. Russia and Australia (alcohol and boredom the big factor) are all other gun carrying suicide/murder places but nobody turns a school/college/cinema/post office/McDonalds in a blood splattered, charnel house of death like an American with a grievance and a gun. Canada also has guns but, unlike their big southern neighbour, they
But I didn’t want to type anything like that; I was happy for you to bring it up and get the gun freaks knocking on your door with their grievances and guns – aren’t you pleased to be living in Britain where only some criminals are armed, not all those crazies who have a pathological need to tell you they own guns? But that’s you saying that, not me…;o)