No need James, what you’ve said is as usual very good. I will just add though that the Wyvern did indeed prove itself at Suez as a very stable and accurate strike aircraft, and pilots in general liked it. But that was with complete air superiority on its side whilst making its attack runs. Had it come up against contemporary Russian designed jet fighters then it would not of stood much chance. With a relatively low maximum speed, and a turning circle the size of Yorkshire because of its high wing loading, it was said that a lightly loaded Wyvern would even struggle in a dogfight against a fully loaded F-84 Thunderjet. It was also very vulnerable to ground and small arms fire.
But, as James has already hinted, that was not the fault of the aircraft itself. Three different engines through no fault of its own, and an original specification that changed constantly, its no wonder it took nye on seven years of development to get it right.. well nearly right. And in those seven years just look how much jet fighter design had progressed. The americans on the other hand never got to grips with their A2D Skyshark equivalent, and that was abandoned after the first fatality (but thats a different story and another awesome aeroplane)!
Westland Chief Test Pilot Harold Penrose once said of the Wyvern after most of its niggles had been sorted, it was “very nearly a very good aeroplane”
And i love it! 😎
Rob
Fantastic looking aeroplane, would of love to hear what it sounded like !
Can’t vouch for the piston powered TF.1, but there used to be a youtube clip of Farnborough in the 1950’s with sound, and it had a turboprop Wyvern TF.2 doing a high speed pass but i can’t find it.
But an ex 830 sqn groundcrew member described the sound of the Wyvern S.4as the most evil howl-cum-wine that he had ever heard.!
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Sadly Andrew despite plenty of scrubbing and squirts of WD40 to help make them more legible, the digits are proving hard to read 🙁
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Great to see G-AGTM still flying 🙂
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When was the majority of Radletts runways etc broken up? Was the hardcore used during the M25’s construction in the mid 80’s?
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Should of put the word ‘Spitfire’ in the title Rob. That would of guaranteed a reply 😀
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Well……………………………… they do! 🙂
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Fans of the JU-52 might be interested in this
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Jim if your talking about TS371, the actual Wyvern TF.1 prototype, then that was lost in a fatal accident in 1947. But if its the sole surviving TF.1 pre-production example VR137 that you mean then i think its over at the FAAM Cobham hall storage facility.
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Those are some really good pics of an airfield i know very little about. During my line of work in the late eighties i used to have to go to Adams foods on an industrial park i think near the railway line, and you could still make out some parts of a runway and peri track, and maybe a hangar too.. And i used to stand and try to imagine the Victors coming and going from years gone by. But sadly now i think most of what i could see is all long gone.
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I have a freind who lost a close colleague in a Rapide in the 80s. I dont ask him about it, I wonder if this is the same incident.
That was possibly Pete Treadaway at Audley End.
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Indeed it was. I still remember being at Duxford that day and seeing a very worried looking Graham Warner walking past me along the crowd line (positioned further forward for that day) towards the control tower, and looking at his watch. Thankfully i had left before the Rapide incident.
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Sad sight. She was the first aeroplane i ever flew in 🙁
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😮 Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Rob