Sorry to hear that Pagen.. all the best for getting back on track asap.!
Noise Alert Leaflet.
It now turns out that this is BOGUS.! Whoever printed and distributed it is nothing to do with any councils, whether local or county, and the leaflet is in fact illegal propaganda.!:mad:
By the way testing is in progress today, and because of the lack of wind sounds no worse that a motorbike on the M11.!:rolleyes:
Thanks for your input Joe.
Another possible reason perhaps for the ‘damaged by flak’ claim could also be down to pilot McCarthy not realising he had infact been engaged by another aircraft, and not the outcome of a cover up. If he had’nt seen the MiG (possibly attacked from below).. had been advised of a limited chance of encountering enemy a/c, and after finding himself in an emergency situation was concentrating more on saving himself (quite rightly) rather than wasteing time figureing out what had happened, then maybe the shoot down claim from one side and not the other does hold more credence.
I for one also fail to see why a Russian pilot would make up a story claiming to of shot down what was a relatively slow aircraft.. in what would have been a very one sided confrontation at the best of times.
But again the ifs, buts, and why’s are just heresay without something more official to back things up.
Incidentally i wonder if the two pilots are both still around.. that could make for an interesting conversation… and a wonderful new painting.!
Rob.
Only one way this could have been topped and that would have been for 558 to land at Wellesbourne!
…or for 655 to have become ‘airborne’. Did someone say Bruntingthorpe.?:D
Noise Alert leaflet.
Yes thats right. Interesting to note that the leaflet says “if your affected by the noise let your officials know”.. but does’nt mention “if you don’t have a problem with the noise let your officials know”.! Tossers..
Ah fame at last!
Nice to see XH135 taking pride of place in the first photo…y’know there’s not a single pic of her over on UKAR…what’s that all about!?
Your welcome Timbo, and here’s a couple more pics of the ‘star of the statics’.. with if i’m not mistaken Top Gun Tom Cruise in the pilots seat. Oh no.. sorry.. its me.! Oh well easy mistake to make.:eek::p:D
Wings over Suez by Brian Cull gives an account of the loss of the aircraft that states it was due to flak.
McCarthy flew for three miles out to sea before ejecting and was picked up by a Whirlwind helicopter.
He was one of 6 aircraft attacking Gamil Bridge.
I think the book is pretty authorative
Dave, that is the account that i have read time and time again.. and always assumed that it was fact. So you can imagine my surprise, as well as scepticism, to read something like this involving a possible aerial combat.. that could in fact be re-writing history.
We did after all accept that it was Hoagy Carmichael that shot down the first MiG by an FAA Seafury during Korea, until that was contested fairly recently by another pilot of at the time lower rank.
At the time of Suez the whole political situation was nothing short of an unstable minefield, and after all these years it is i think quite conceivable that a confrontation such as this did take place and was indeed ‘covered up’, but for what reasons remains unknown… unless?
For those interested i am quoteing from the publication of the Air Combat Information Group, Middle East Database and is part of the Allied Losses section http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_256.shtml
Rob.
…and a few more.
DC3 / C47 heading across the north of Duxford towards Cambridge.
Ouch… looks like he was flying alone, and just as well looking at the front cockpit.:eek:
Ed and Jim are brilliant and were fantastic at the Gathering….I watched them do the Horsemen routine every day, it was great but scared me, so I understand your nerves! I chatted to them after a couple of displays…these guys are so nice and professional with infectious enthusiasm and a respect for the aircraft, veterans and those enthusiasts who do likewise. They fully know how lucky they are to do what they do. That said, I was so pleased to see them back on the ground smiling afterwards!
I totally agree Rocketeer.. they are indeed very professional and experienced pilots who have my utmost respect. Personally i just don’t see the point of flying priceless vintage aircraft THAT close together.. apart from to admire the pilots skill.. and we could do that while watching them in something more modern.!
Apologies to Wondy for going off thread.
Excellent idea aerovet… and while your at it can you persuade the dutch government to order TSR2 in large numbers and get that one going again. We would all be very grateful.!:D
What a waste… those very useable hangars about to be demolished and just down the road the NAM has some superb aircraft needing some hangarage.:(
Whatever is in it will be much appreciated, but can we please have no more ultra close formation flying from the P51 pair etc… i can’t see how it displays the aircraft any better and it does nothing for my nerves.!
i bloody love it! you cant beat the smell and sound of a steam locomotive 😀
Nash you judas…;)