Erez wrote:
Tell me then, what can be done that hasn’t been tried (and failed) before with the Palestinians

Give back West coast, and ist part of Jerusalem, that would take cards of Hamas hands!
That’s something that Israel gouverment hasent trayed.

Every Sa’ar-5 have “black spot” on it.
So it is not a missile damage

We now talk localy. If you wan’t global solution it is: Golan to Sirya, Gaza, West coast and east part of Jerusalem to Palestinian, and than there could be peace. any other solution is imagination.

Israel is holding 9000 arab captives in it prisons. Why doesn’t it change for 3 soldiers. Do you thing 9000 people are all quilty?
There are two keys. Freedom for arab captives and division of Jerusalom.
As soon this is done, Israel will have chance to live in peace that would be garantied by internatonal comunity.
Today because of Israel ignorent and agressiv actions,it doesnt have internatonal support.
Arabs and Jews are bouth deserving to live in peace and prosperity.

Podgorica, Montenegro 14. 05. 2006.

For example,in Serbia,during 1999,5 Mig-29s got shot down,they were unable to acquire any target due to non functioning radars and jamming and were greatly outnumbered by an enemy that had support of AWACS aircraft. Therefore this cannot be considered as “combat record”,but as a heroism or stupidity of the pilots,you name it!

Again, and again, :confused: :confused: this is just legend, the Migs radars were functioning. This was confirmed by my frend, who in that time was working on this Migs just before taking off.