It really was an excellent programme. The pace was not too hurried and Mr johnson was given plenty of time to be heard. Apparently Stephen Fry has a great interest in the Dambusters and jumped at the chance to narrate. It’s a pity the whole series doesn’t cover similar ground.
You’re right Air Ministry, From Harry Holmes ‘Definitive Record’. It would be interesting if you could find any more 464 provisioning photos. The published record is pretty scant. As an aside, a work colleage’s father was a ventral gunner on Lancs late in the war. His log book mentions manning a .5 Browning.
Lots more info on Simon Parry’s Red kite site. Link here:
http://www.redkitebooks.co.uk/aa/ex08_Lancaster_Doulens.html
The attached photo of the mount isn’t exactly conclusive but there are a couple of drawings extant of the ventral mount, which the wreckage compared with well. ED825 was photographed extensively at Boscombe Down before the raid and the Vickers K is visible in a couple of the shots. Other bits shown are the face of a crew position oxygen gauge, an escape compass and a section of flak damaged skinning. The Lanc was lost dropping supplies to the resistance and there were many cooked off 9mm rounds and grenade remains. There were also a number of fired .303 rounds, so ED825 did not go down without a fight.
The programme is on Tuesday 17th June, 8pm, Channel 5.
Absolutely agree, it’s a damn good museum. Terrible thing to say but it’s not the planes which make the museum, it’s the imaginative and informative way they are presented. The fact it’s amazing airframes is a bonus. The vickers k game wasted quite a bit of my cash to.
I put a premature post to this just after the dig, maybe it can be recovered ( I have no idea how) Some interesting artefacts were discovered and it should be an informative programme. I’m looking forward to it.
It really is an impressive piece of work. The book about it is a good read too, with lots of detail photos. I read on the net somewhere that the Brewster plant was so badly organised there was a machine at the end of the production line to turn the Corsairs over and shake the loose bits out. Sounds too bad to be true. They certainly lost the contract. It is true that the yanks gave most of the Brewster builds to us though.
Expert JCB work as well!
It was a very early loss, P47 42-8420 abandoned by Capt R C Durlin, 15th September 1943. Lost coming back from an escort mission to the Paris area. Some interesting pieces came out, mainly engine and ancilliaries. The plane hit solid shale at about eight feet so the recovery crew didn’t have too difficult a job. Weather awful. Devon cream teas and pasties top notch. Hospitality faultless, the farmer was a really good bloke.
I’ve gone for a simpler approach to very empty panel. Mr Adlam style engineering with three big lumps of steel. No offence Graham. Real ones would be much nicer. More panel trivia to follow.
Hello Mr Noodle. The Vulcan was XA909 of 101 Sqn Waddington and it came down on 16th July 64 at Gwalchmai. Unusally everyone got out of it. There is lots of detail in Roy Sloan’s ‘Anglesey Air Accidents’ book.
Could be genuine. I’ve got a mint stick off a Whirlwind. But it’s a helicopter one. Who can tell?
There was a B36 at Boscombe, though I think it skidded to a halt within the boundary. The one at Lacock came down all over the place (the crew dropped into three counties), not just in the wood but has been fairly well picked over. Wartime alloy corrodes badly but the magnesium alloy a B36 was made from doesn’t last well at all. It was the biggest aircraft to crash in the UK though, going by wingspan.
Not a tank down a mine but the remains of one of two tanks on a Norfolk beach! Was there in the snow week before last. Failed to find an already dug Whirlwind but these were lying on the Titchwell bird reserve. Probably beyond saving though. Re the Museum, the Hodgkiss collection is still both existing and collecting. There would certainly be stuff to loan for a museum at Weston Zoyland. Hell of an undertaking mind. Good luck, Ian.
These are my favourite bits. Both from P7533. The exhibition with most of the rest of it is still on at Fort Perch Rock museum, New Brighton. Well worth a look!