ok Jo Asukura, I don’t know why Russian posters keep coming here dismissing Chinese aircraft. A lot of Chinese and non-Chinese like Blitzo enjoy normal conversation and news here and we care about facts
the J-20 is only slightly longer than f-22. it just LOOKS longer because the f-22 has a huge reflective tail. If it had a smaller tail like the j-20, it would also Look long. for example
the longest and largest aircraft are always Russian. the PAKFA is longer and bigger than the j-20 and the f-22. especially because of its tandem bays.
please leave my other account out of this, that one is just dedicated to talking about s-ducks.
and that is a horrible photoshop. no one here thinks the j-20 is as long as the f-22. well except you
I’m not sure what you’re referring to here, I might not have followed that discussion too closely. I consider the length discussion to have been settled a few years back.
its like pakfa and the sducts, it will never be settled.
even the j-10s length is underdispute. tons of fanboys claiming it is the same as the f-16 like your friend above
Yes, well I think your mistake was taking Byoin’s posts with any sort of seriousness to begin with :p
That is assuming the flare ejectors are behind enclosed panels like on other fighter aircraft and thus very difficult to identify.
Personally I’m not sure if those things on the tail are flare ejectors, and if they are, I’m not sure if that means we should expect any ventral flare ejectors to be easily identifiable or if they may be behind panels.
lol what a flip flopper. first you agree with Mr. Chinabot’s post doubting they were flare ejectors, and after a neutral person proved both of you wrong, then you switch your position lol.
reminds me a lot about the claims of the J-20 not being the same size as the Flanker until Quantum and a bunch of others showed that they were the same, using the same exact sattelite image the naysayers used
Kisses..
find one that is not overly saturated on photoshop
please try to look it up on google, good place for beginners.
none of the Russian or new US designs are using DSI. its limiting for supersonic
this looks so right

Shiv Aroor (running the Livefist blog) claims in a tweet that it has been confirmed that only single-engine fighters will be considered:
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/788968399715958784
but no reference to which reports confirm this!?
they’ve already decided on which one they like, but is using the other to drive the price down.
straight outta Ace Combat 3
Im still trying to decide.
there are four tiers of beauty in this forum (trying to stick to more recent designs)
Top Tier – nearly unanimous and loved by all nations
YF-23
Rafale
F-14
Pak-fa
Mirage 2000
Not bad tier – good looking but in a girl/boy next door kind of way
Su-47
F-18
Eurofighter
Mirage F.1
Flankers
JF-17
Boring Tier – boring as hell designs
F-15
J-10
F-2
F-16
Gripen
Su-24
J-31
Pug Tier – So ugly, it’s beautiful
A-10
Su-25
X-32
Only a mother could love – unanimously considered ugly but only loved by nationalists in their own country
J-20
J-8
Some of those new T-X designs
FTC-2000
Even copied the Russian colour scheme.
http://defense-update.com/20161018_j20new.html
pattern looks Russian but the paint type looks a lot like this
rather than

Looked like something from the 60’s.
its them shock cones aint it
Ecuadorian Defence Minister announced early today, the FAE will sell their Dhruv helicopters to any interested. Grounded since october 2015, they have 03 remaining examples from 07 machines originally acquired (04 were lost due crashes).
Note in spanish:
http://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/ricardopatino-anuncia-venta-helicopteros-dhruv.html
is Ecuador the only dissatisfied customer of the Dhruv? how about other air forces
Egypt : 24
Qatar : 24
India : 36
total :84Aeronavale got 4 tranches of planes
Tranche 1 : 10 aircrafts (F1 standard, retrofit to F3 in progress)
Tranche 2 : 16 aircrafts (F2 standard, retrofited to F3 in 2009 )
Tranche 3 : 12 aircrafts (F3 standard)
Tranche 4 : 10 aircrafts (F3O-4T standard)
thanks, yes, that is how I calculated the Rafale numbers.
Yes. Porn thread.
Im going with the Pak Fa but I’d have the French jet in my top 3
so if pakfa and raf are in your top 3, what is the other one?

The Rafale A was the sexiest of the Rafales. not sure why. it is a bit slimmer and lacks the ugly fixed probe
This plane would sell well if they put it into production
I personally liked the x-31 but most people here felt it couldn’t be put to practical use as a fighter.
too slow (not even 1000mph), no range.
perhaps an upscaled version would’ve been nice.