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    I didn’t feel like writing an essay about the assumptions that went into this model. And China is actually not outnumbered and outgunned if we’re only talking about Japan.

    and if you want to talk about realism.. then you are also talking about the US.
    chinabots forget, the US not Japan directly controls a number of the islands. They use it for bombing practice.
    thats why China hasn’t pushed their way in and have their way like they do with the Philippines

    in reply to: Algerian Air Force-pictures and discussion #2237210
    Y-20 Bacon
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    You are forgetting permanent territorial disputes with Morocco, fears of the future regimes in Tunisia and Lybia…

    its no longer 1960s my friend.
    a permanent territorial dispute is an oxymoron

    Y-20 Bacon
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    Wonder what they estimated the KJ-200’s radar range to be. It shouldn’t be significantly different from the E-767’s…

    and you know this because…

    Y-20 Bacon
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    I’m not westernphobe, i love western peoples and culture, very kind, very polite, very educated, very humanist (except the few traitors serving certain country’s interests of course). But i guess you can call me a “yankeephobe” if you wanna categorize me as a “phobe” of some kind. Big difference.

    thats okay, in the US it seems that the Yankees are the most hated too. your feelings are understood.

    in reply to: what second stealth fighter russia need? #2238006
    Y-20 Bacon
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    Soooo your going to build your next gen air superiority fighter to fight the Taliban? If your not going to build your top line fighter with the capabilities to take on a peer or near peer adversary why bother. We already have the A-10 to fight insurgency warfare.

    there’s a kid here who thinks you need two squadrons of hellducks to combat islamic insurgents. lol

    in reply to: Algerian Air Force-pictures and discussion #2238081
    Y-20 Bacon
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    I’ll try an update in regards to planned/negotiated future acquisitions primarily for AAF, based on recent articles and well informed algerian forumists:

    There is in negotiation (if not part or all already signed) another big contract with Russia, possibly containing as much as:
    36 Yak-130 to be used as COIN (on top of 16 delivered)
    42 Mi-28s likely at a standard similar to UB- with double controls.
    More Su-30MKAs, but this time in a standard similar to the russian SM, there is an option for a further 28 from the big 2006 contract likely to be exercised.
    At least two squadrons of Su-32 (export Su-34) – at least 32 of them
    Several batteries of S-400
    Tor (likely latest types) SAM systems
    180 T-90MS tanks
    BMPT armoured vehicles
    Project 20380 corvettes
    Late model Kilo (or Amur?) submarines
    Bastion-P coastal defence systems.
    etc etc.
    They are seemingly also interested in An-70 and An-140.

    From the western countries, they are likely to buy a number of C-17s, they have tested the A330MRTT already and allegedly are also interested in the KC-46 (they are planning to replace Il-78 with either). Also they are searching for a suitable AWACS platform with the Boeing B-737 Wedgetail mentioned, and there is perhaps interest in the CH-47, or at least Boeing appears to hint as much.
    The MMRCA decision has been postponed a few months, it is speculated is that it might be a western type (JAS-39 or Rafale? Typhoon and SH offers were not suitable as i understand) selected to replace the MiG-29s.
    Finally, they are interest in the UAE Yabhont UAV, and possibly already acquired a number of chinese armed UAVs (Wing Loong/ Pterodactyl?) for use against AQ terrorists.

    It might not be 100% accurate, and time will tell which acquisitions will be fully implemented and which ones perhaps not, but still it looks pretty damn impressive innit? Oh btw all these plans are backed by a considerable increase in the defence budget.

    lol. is this what Algeria wants, or what you want?
    Algeria’s defense budget is smaller than Poland’s and an economy the size of Romania (and Algeria is using 4.5% of its gdp too).
    Its main threats are internal.

    Y-20 Bacon
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    Here we go, more sinophobe pathetic warmongering rubbish.

    relax westernphobe.
    I’m quite sure there are many chinabots staying up all night playing the game having orgasms blowing up the Japanese.

    in reply to: Japanese F-3 project #2240353
    Y-20 Bacon
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    They are supposed to fly in 2014 the tech demonstrator, now they are building the prototype of the tech demonstrator.
    It is supposed to replace the F-15 by 2027 in the meantime Japan will use F-35s to replace F-4s.
    http://blog-imgs-62-origin.fc2.com/1/6/1/16162ch/0019b91ecbef138a9d7c48.jpg
    According to what little has been released by magazines in Japan, they might build two variants one a FB-22 kind with no vertical tail and no horizontal tail, and a fighter type similar to the F-22

    http://images.china.cn/attachement/jpg/site1004/20130617/001ec94a25c51328f7fc38.jpg

    Recently they had a magazine in Japan that showed the main configurations studied, one was a YF-23 type aircraft a similar aircraft to PAKFA and another like The F-22.
    They chose the F-22 type and IHI is designing the engines

    lol I see cg images are your kryptonite.

    Japan is building one stealth tech demonstrator with no bays.
    that cg you have up above came from a modelling magazine. its cg.
    if you’re good, i can show you the actual F-3 which does not look like that.

    Y-20 Bacon
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    Funny how all the raging sinophobes and/ or sock-puppets cluster over anything having to do with China like this topic trying to flood it with their “view” and present it as the “only one” (look it up, standard modus operandi of CIA/NSA sock puppets), yet one thing is very strange: none of the so called chinabots we’re supposed to have here posted one word in this topic, you would think they will be all over something like this. Strange innit ? Not if they are based in Langley though. (get it ?)

    In regards to the yanks sending their stealth aircraft in the ADIZ (and holding the japanese by hand in the process), sure go ahead, this will be an excellent opportunity for the chinese air force and air defence to measure and calibrate the effectiveness of their measures planned to be taken against the stealths in case of US attack. Go ahead, make their day …

    lol, yes, all the chinabots here are actually Americans.
    well that’s probably not far from the truth, the most extreme nationalists from China don’t even live in China. they are typing safely from their rich homes in the UK, US, Singapore

    Y-20 Bacon
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    This is interesting and, in my view, if backed by sources, it own its place in this thread. Would be kind from you to elaborate further.

    tis true, the mayor wanted to buy the islands so the yapanese government beat him to it
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/9588601/Tokyo-governor-risks-Chinese-outrage-with-disputed-island-construction-plan.html
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/19/tokyo-governor-senkaku-islands-china

    in reply to: Possible Scottish Defece Force #2242320
    Y-20 Bacon
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    so will it be scotlands job to intercept Russian bears?

    Y-20 Bacon
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    I’m going to cross post a rather elaborate summary of the ADIZ’s intentions and goals and roadmap which I posted on SDF a few days ago.

    Feel free to respond to it.

    The end game is simple. I will elaborate.

    In my opinion China has two main goals for the ADIZ.

    One of them is related to the disputed islands, the second is related to the overall security needs of the country.

    Let’s look at the first.
    Japan has repeatedly stated in the last couple of years that there is “no” territorial dispute over the islands. The government has maintained that line. It has escalated various acts since 2010, including the arresting of a Chinese fisherman in the waters around the islands, ramping up coast guard patrols, using its own ADIZ as an extension of its alarmist view of Chinese aircraft that near the islands, and threatening to shoot down foreign drones that enter its airspace with a pointed view to the islands.

    China until now has only responded with also sending its own coast guard and CMS patrols in the waters of the islands alongside Japanese coast guard vessels, and the single flight account where a CMS Y-12 briefly entered the disputed airspace. More recently they have done more extensive aerial surveillance of the first island chain including the disputed islands, but all in international airspace.
    The announcement of the ADIZ encompassing the islands allows China to directly challenge Japan’s claim that there is “no” territorial dispute, because if Japan is so insistent that on its sovereignty over the islands, then if China sends military aircraft over the islands then by association Japan must shoot them down, correct? If they do not shoot down PLAAF or PLANAF aircraft then they’d effectively be conceding there is a dispute and their control is not uncontested.

    That is a major victory for China because the strategy these last few years was always to deny Japan’s claims that their sovereignty is uncontested.

    Of course this idea may unravel if Japan decides to shoot at Chinese aircraft — but do we think Japan is willing to start a war? I personally doubt it. So the other only option is to not shoot and only observe, possibly engage in aggressive maneuvering with Chinese aircraft. That constitutes a victory.

    Now, the other achievement of this ADIZ is security related.
    ADIZs are meant to give a nation the right to intercept and ID potentially threatening aircraft in an airspace beyond its borders. In an age of high speed bombers and fighter jets, this is natural. The US, Japan, and a myriad of other nations all have had extensive ADIZs for decades.
    In this case, it gives China the right to do more interceptions at longer range.
    If China had conducted more interceptions at longer range without the cover of an ADIZ, then there would be even more international “condemnation” and “concern” than there is now.

    We should clarify, that China never said they would intercept every single noncompliant aircraft within its ADIZ. Indeed, while the wording of the original ADIZ statement was “we will deal with noncompliant aircraft with emergency military maneuvers” (or something to that effect), it has since been clarified that it’s meaning is more “we reserve the right to deal with noncompliant aircraft with emergency military maneuvers”.
    So China doesn’t have to intercept every single noncompliant aircraft or shoot them down.

    That would be ridiculous.

    However by merely outlining their right to perform such actions, it gives greater pseud-legal scope for the PLAAF and PLANAF to defend China’s security against forward based USAF strike fighters, bombers, and USN carrier based aircraft that operate in the ECS.
    Even a neutral observer would understand that China faces a massive air threat from forward based US combat aircraft, and an ADIZ is the least China should have in place to defend the mainland from potential air attacks.

    So, if Japan and the US wants China to back down, what can they do?

    Well, Japan may be be able to make China agree to rescind part of its ADIZ over the disputed islands if Japan too retracts its ADIZ a couple of hundred kilometers to make the islansd “de militarized” and also if Japan agrees that the islands are indeed under dispute and begins bilateral negotiations. Frankly I believe this was one of the main goals of including the ADIZ over the islands.

    But if Japan or the US wants China to abolish its ADIZ completely, they are very much mistaken.
    Like I said, China faces massive air threats — perhaps the most any single large nation in the world faces, aside from Iran and North Korea. US carrier battle groups and airbases hold a good fraction of the US war machine’s airstrike capability, and it is flexible, competent and dangerous — and aimed at China. Until such a threat is far from China’s doorstep, China has a need to secure its peripheral airspace with an ADIZ.

    Hell, the continental US faces virtually no air threat from any nation, yet its ADIZ is still one of the most massive in the world.
    So in that sense, don’t expect China to abolish its ADIZ.

    typical sinosentric view. if anything Japan attempted to de-escalate the situation. yes that’s right.
    take your choice
    Japanese government buys the islands
    or
    Racist mayor of Tokyo who is blatantly anti-Chinese buys the islands.
    The Japanese government did what it had to do to prevent a worse case scenario. It was also done by the left wing, liberal, pro-Asia government, not the current conservative one. duh duh duh

    in reply to: what second stealth fighter russia need? #2250798
    Y-20 Bacon
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    I don’t see any actual need for another fighter type in VVS.

    Russia can probably get by w/o one, but it can’t exactly export the pakfa as freely nor the supposed mig-31 replacement.
    fulcrums are an old design that’s losing competitiveness with more similar options out there. too many people here focused on security aspects of fighter design rather than the economic and financial aspects.. suggesting that russia give up its traditional markets to the west and china which would be glad to take it.

    Many Countries are purchasing now 20+ years old F-16s or operating 30+ years old F-5s, Su-22s and the likes, no way they will ask for 5th gen fighters any time soon, rhe heavy as the light ones.

    some say that’s exactly the reason why there’s a market out there.

    in reply to: what second stealth fighter russia need? #2250799
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    You are right but missed one thing IMOHO: the 29 had two engines and did fulfill the job of export until cold war put the Rouble at such a level that it didn’t make so much diff to go for the big one.

    So lets be clear, Su does not hve to review its copy from scratch. In my view, it’s well the opposite. A scaled down version, will do the job.

    yes but in the end the mig-29 ended up being heavy. its lighter than the flanker of course, but much heavier than its supposed counterparts in the west. also more complicated.
    thats why its exports skyrocketed down after SU fell apart and a number of air forces preferring to either outright replace them or preferring the lighter simpler Mig-21.
    probably in 15 years there would still be more mig-21 operators than mig-29.
    russia had a chance to go for a single engined delta wing sukhoi fighter using the same engine as the su-27 but they didn’t.

    in reply to: Gayduck, Ukraine corvette Prject 58250 #2035356
    Y-20 Bacon
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    all these years and gayduck still hasn’t came out of the factory yet?
    so disappointed..its so fabulous a ship.

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