Isn’t it true tho, that some variants of the AH-64 like those flown by the British Army, are known as ‘Longbows’?
Hi Paul, yes i was about 100 yards further down by the look of it. AWESOME shot mate! bloody brilliant! would love a copy of that!!
Heres a couple more of mine.
Mike
Harriers knackered?? Where are you getting this information from??
ALL, I repeat, ALL 50+ GR. 9’s have plenty of life left – certainly enough for 10 years – probably more. You know they’ve all recently had a shedload of work, right?? Even the remaining GR. 7’s aren’t beyond further service.
You’ll perhaps also note that they haven’t (nor will they be) been disposed of and, indeed, are still ground run? No? Thought not…
I COULD point you in the direction of several threads elsewhere with contributions from those who really DO know but using your your rather slip – shod research as my benchmark, I can’t be @rsed.
Frank
the info came from the RAF, not me. I was only saying what i was told guys! no need to berate
Probably not. The BBMF are very lairy of flying formation with civilians.
Moggy
It was never a problem for PS853. There was talk of the Canadian Mk 10 Lanc making a trip. The news all went quiet tho
A VERY PUBLIC APOLOGY
To all those concerned with this thread, may I offer my sincerest apologies to anyone whom I have personally upset. I let my feelings run away with me and this, upon reflection, was unforgivable.
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A VERY PUBLIC APOLOGY
To all those concerned with this thread, may I offer my sincerest apologies to anyone whom I have personally upset. I let my feelings run away with me and this, upon reflection, was unforgivable.
CAN I ASSURE ALL USERS HERE THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE
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I was told on this thread that Typhoon has NO advantages over Rapter. Below are the statistics of both aircrafts official websites. They manufacturers don’t agree with you boys!
From the F-22 Rapter official website
Wing Area: 840 sq ft
Engine Thrust Class: 35,000 lb
Level Speed: 921 mph
Total Length: 62.08 ft
Wing Span: 44.5 ft
Horizontal Tail Span: 29ft
Tail Span: 18’10”
Total Height: 16.67ft
Track Width: 10.6ft
Engines: Pratt & Whitney F-119
Max. Takeoff Weight: 60,000 lb (27,216 kg) Max. External Stores: 5,000 lb (2,270 kg) Weight Empty: 31,670 lb (14,365 kg) Ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,240 m) Crew: 1 G Limit: +9 G First Flight: September 7th 1997
From The Euro Fighter Typhoon Website
General characteristics
• Crew: 1 (operational aircraft) or 2 (training aircraft)
• Length: 15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)
• Wingspan: 10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)
• Height: 5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)
• Wing area: 50 m² (538 ft²)
• Empty weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
• Loaded weight: 15,550 kg (34,280 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 23,500 kg (51,800 lb)
• Powerplant: 2× Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
o Dry thrust: 60 kN (13,500 lbf) each
o Thrust with afterburner: 90 kN (20,000 lbf) each
Performance
• Maximum speed:
o At altitude: Mach 2+ (2,120 km/h, 1,320 mph)
o At sea level: Mach 1.2
o Supercruise: Mach 1.1[134]-1.5[135]
• Range: 1,390 km (864 mi)
• Ferry range: 3,790 km (2,300 mi)
• Service ceiling 19,812 m (65,000 ft)
• Rate of climb: >315 m/s[136][137] (62,000 ft/min[138])
• Wing loading: 311 kg/m² (63.7 lb/ft²)
• Thrust/weight: 1.16
Armament
• Gun: 1x 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannon 150 rounds
I will concede that stealth for Euro Fighter is an issue and apart from agility which is a at best a low speed regime because of the body’s ability to withstand G forces, the facts here speak for themselves. Typhoon is faster by some 500mph, better rate of climb, carries more fire power than rapter (twice that of Tornado!) and has a better combat radius.
i dislike being hurranged in public just because i have a different view than our friends across the pond. Where’s the special relationship now??????
Just to throw a little fuel on to the fire, so to speak. I was told on this thread that Typhoon has NO advantages over Rapter. i think You’ll find, boys, that the manufacturers don’t agree with you.
From the F-22 Rapter official website
Wing Area: 840 sq ft
Engine Thrust Class: 35,000 lb
Level Speed: 921 mph
Total Length: 62.08 ft
Wing Span: 44.5 ft
Horizontal Tail Span: 29ft
Tail Span: 18’10”
Total Height: 16.67ft
Track Width: 10.6ft
Engines: Pratt & Whitney F-119
Max. Takeoff Weight: 60,000 lb (27,216 kg) Max. External Stores: 5,000 lb (2,270 kg) Weight Empty: 31,670 lb (14,365 kg) Ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,240 m) Crew: 1 G Limit: +9 G First Flight: September 7th 1997
From The Euro Fighter Typhoon Website
General characteristics
• Crew: 1 (operational aircraft) or 2 (training aircraft)
• Length: 15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)
• Wingspan: 10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)
• Height: 5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)
• Wing area: 50 m² (538 ft²)
• Empty weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
• Loaded weight: 15,550 kg (34,280 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 23,500 kg (51,800 lb)
• Powerplant: 2× Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
o Dry thrust: 60 kN (13,500 lbf) each
o Thrust with afterburner: 90 kN (20,000 lbf) each
Performance
• Maximum speed:
o At altitude: Mach 2+ (2,120 km/h, 1,320 mph)
o At sea level: Mach 1.2
o Supercruise: Mach 1.1[134]-1.5[135]
• Range: 1,390 km (864 mi)
• Ferry range: 3,790 km (2,300 mi)
• Service ceiling 19,812 m (65,000 ft)
• Rate of climb: >315 m/s[136][137] (62,000 ft/min[138])
• Wing loading: 311 kg/m² (63.7 lb/ft²)
• Thrust/weight: 1.16
Armament
• Gun: 1x 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannon 150 rounds
Agility aside which is a low speed regime at best. typhoon is faster, carries more fire power, has a better rate of climb. Do I really need to go on?
Quote: ‘He who laughs last, laughs longest!’
Rommel was shot up by a flight of Spitfires from 350 (Belgian) Squadron. his staff car overturned and broke his back. He was under arrest at the time.
Fantastic Lanc Photos. Don’t you just love it? there are rumours of NX611 being restored to flying condition. Anyone have any info on this?
‘………. All i got was a belly full of English Channel!!’
hmmmmm………….er…………….blimey. Phew!!
one day, the truth will out, and when it does, we’ll see who is laughing then! 😀
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the same thing it did to the Indian Air Force Sukhoi’s
‘don’t laugh at the truth when the truth laughs at you…..’
Random BS huh? well, you ought to tell that to the USAF because they were stunned by what typhoon did to their new ‘baby’. ……and i can back it up!!:D
Thanks Creaking, my views about the Falklands often get me to trouble. to be perfectly honest, yes, we took a hell of a risk going down to the south Atlantic. Ardent, Antilope, Coventry, Sheffield, Atalntic Conveyor, Sir Tristrom and Sir Lancelot are proof of that.
In 1992, I met a famous casualty of the logistic ships that were bombed, a Welsh Guardsman, 10 years after the conflict and I asked him did he think it was worth all of the sacrifice. He only answered with one word…………………..yes! Then he shook me by the hand, signed my book, looked me in the eye…………and wept.
Bravery has many faces, doesn’t it?