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  • in reply to: Desert camouflage in the Gulf War #1190151
    madjock mcgrok
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    Ah the pink piggies- spent much of Granby tootling around the Gulf in Perky -ZD951-carrying out refuels of anything with a probe- had a list somewhere of all the types cleared for refuelling from our aircraft. Possibly the most interesting part was the period we spent doing a refuel shuttle from Palermo to Riyadh. In fact for DC-9 fans Palermo was fascinating to watch as a fleet of Alitalia DC-9’s pitched up early in the morning to pick up all those working on the mainland- also Palermo was the place where I had the worst Pizza ever!

    Cheers
    Madus Jockus

    in reply to: Remembrance Day #1226053
    madjock mcgrok
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    Its nice to think that so many remember although for most it seems that one day a year is enough- it would be nice to think that some would show concern over those lads coming home in one form or other from the current conflict coz sure as hell our politicians don’t. Betrayal of the military covenent anyone? You shut the military hospitals and the NHS can have the money but all you brave lads can have priority treatment etc. From personal experience it doesn’t work.

    And No I don’t do religion- causes too many wars so today at 11 o’clock I stopped what I was doing and thought of all those I had served with in more than 20 years in the RAF.

    Absent Friends

    in reply to: Alan Hall – RIP #1231507
    madjock mcgrok
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    I’m absolutely gutted- I only received an email from him the other day concerning the B-26 Marauder Warpaint and the efforts being made to clear it for the IMPS Nats.

    Like many Alan also gave me a break in the writing game. Some Editors can be downright unpleasant but Alan was always encouraging. I met him many times while he was resident in the UK although I never had much chance to chat with him in depth until a RAFAS do many years back- yes he could be gruff but if he reckoned you were worth your salt he could soften quite considerably.

    Goodbye old friend and many thanks.

    Mad Jock

    in reply to: Vulcan aerobatics, the truth? #1163684
    madjock mcgrok
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    >>How long did they maintain inverted flight for prior to recovering, presumably with the second half roll?<<

    Seconds only – half roll then back again- I have no idea why the aircraft was stooging about up there although I think it was a 44 crew-I know it wasn’t one of ours!

    >>overstressed<<
    Who said anything about overstress- just a few pulled rivets- replaced quite a few in my time

    >>Were you on board for it?<<
    Much more sense- ground crew

    >>standard display routine<<
    As said before- the crew were doing their own thing- it was 35 years or so ago and it stuck in my memory
    as I had never seen it happen before or since.

    >>colourful than they actually were.<<

    Were you there- I don’t think so!

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

    in reply to: Vulcan aerobatics, the truth? #1163920
    madjock mcgrok
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    The touring F-16 camp turned up with a batch of pre production aircraft for European trials to sell to those air forces needing an F-104 replacement. The Vulcan was chosen for intercept trials at high and medium levels. It was obvious that like most Vulcan captains this lad had finished with this stay there and be shot rubbish so at the ends of this particular set of mobile target things he dropped the aircraft down to low level- pos 250 ft- opened up the engines to full power and proceeded to run rings around the F-16 chaser- don’t forget those barn door elevons which had a dramatic effect on the aircraft performance. Having watched Vulcans thrown about the sky for many years even I was amazed at the skill with which this bird was being flown. Strangely enough I don’t think the pilot was Joe L’Strange this time- might have been a 44 Sqdn captain.

    Mind Joe was no slouch as a pilot- Waddington-nice sunny day- couple of the lads spot Joe pacing the washpan between 3 and 4 hangers. Next day visit bt Le Generale Francais. 4 ship scramble – all 4 do a flyby then three go off to annoy Scampton for a bit. Meanwhile Joe in XM597 complete with still under trial 18228 on fin tip comes screaming across SHQ down between the hangers and over the top of the control tower where the visitors were watching. Ah the sight of bods diving for the concrete !! This short sharp display was finished by a max rate turn over the bomb dump before he took the aircraft up to more sedate levels. After a quick circuit a brilliant aerodynamic landing was made and the nose held up until the airspeed had dropped below 125 kts when the chute was popped. The results of these gyrations was a load of pulled rivets that required MEAS attention and a bit of a telling off.

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

    in reply to: Vulcan aerobatics, the truth? #1164034
    madjock mcgrok
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    Yep – only a couple until the powers that be noticed and said stop it- come and see staish. Very agile bird the Vulcan- far more capable that most realise. Couple of examples- F-16’s on visit to Belgium on sales tour- big triangular thing outflew them quite comfortably or on a trip home from Germany flying 7th seat the captain decided to fly a low level attack sortie over one of the welsh bombing ranges so that the co could practise his SFOM targeting. We in the back got the briefing from the captain and settled down for a bumpy ride- only thing he forgot to mention was the max rate low level turn on a wing tip to turn onto the bomb run- unlike the ASC i was so glad that I hadn’t had a vasactomy- his face was a picture of strngulated agony- had one hell of a job getting out of the aircraft when we taxied in at Waddo 🙂

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

    in reply to: B17 eighth air force markings #1164112
    madjock mcgrok
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    apparently there is a new book out at

    http://www.bigbirdaviation.co.uk

    this covers the aircraft operated by the 8th AAF by bomber/fighter group

    cheers
    mad jock

    in reply to: Vulcan aerobatics, the truth? #1164115
    madjock mcgrok
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    Ah the joys and delights of standing on Delta dispersal in that long hot summer of 75 watching a 44 sqdn bird practising half rolls at 10,000 feet above us- brilliant.

    cheers
    mad jock

    in reply to: HP Victor? #1164118
    madjock mcgrok
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    Ah the joys of the Victor and the Vulcan. Far preferred the latter as most of the bits acually fitted. Did a Victor taiplane change at Saints during a major- we had to try three different t/p’s before we found one that would fit and as for panels- forget it. All replacement panels needed cutting and drilling to fit unlike most of the Vulcan ones which just needed a bit of a trim. As for the small amount of Victors 2’s built it would appears that the CAS of the time was more enamoured with the Vulcan as there were questions concerning the structural strength of the Victors back end.

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

    in reply to: Avro Vulcan questions #1176732
    madjock mcgrok
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    The first batch of B.2’s were not originally capable of carrying Blue Steel- when that weapon became available those aircraft underwent the mod programme to allow them to carry the weapon while those on the production line had the mods incorporated before issue. It was originally intended that roling between Blue Steel and conventional would be a quick change thing however practical realities proved different. Although the cabling etc was installed in the bomb bay as were the extra fuel gallery connections swapping between roles would turn out to be a right pain. Not only were the bomb bay doors replaced but a cooling, hydraulic and electrical package needed fitting plus the nose and tail fairing panels needed fitting to replace the original panels. Given the amount of work needed to rerole it was decided that the Blue Steel aircraft would remain unchanged especially as getting the bomb doors off was a nightmare- only did this once – never again. The list of mods required was quite extensive and included seperate items for the front and rear spar- mountings for the services crates plus changes to the switching titles for the bomb bay doors which became fin gap doors- in fact the last aircraft to carry the fin gap door tags didn’t change until early 1974. Just to make life even more complicated some aircraft such as XM575 had a partial Skybolt panel fit in the Nav area so it sported relics at one time of conventional, Blue Steel and Skybolt.

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

    in reply to: Take a seat in a Vulcan FULL POWER engine run! #1176744
    madjock mcgrok
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    Last Time I went for a taxi run in a Vulcan I ended up climbing out at Goose Bay !

    Cheers
    Mad Jock

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