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  • in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2107611
    GoldenDragon
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    And it looks like the JF-17 is blooded with a MiG-21 Bison and a Su-30MKI. At least, the Pakistani air force is confident of it.

    Kill patches. Worn by a Turkish pilot as well at Pakistan Day ceremonies.

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    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2107622
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    New export of a JF-17B to Myanmar.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2112184
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    https://www.southasiainvestor.com/?m=1

    JF-17 Manufacturer’s Stock Soars After Pakistan Air Force’s Success Against India

    March 03, 2019

    Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui of Pakistan Air Force (PAF), flying a Pakistan-made JF-17 Block 2 serial 15-201 fighter jet, shot down Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman of Indian Air Force (IAF) flying a Russia made MiG 21. Abhinandan was captured by Pakistan last week. The news has boosted the stock price of CAC (Chengdu Aircraft Corporation) which jointly developed JF-17 Thunder with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).

    Stock Market Reaction:

    Within hours of the Pakistan Air Marshall’s tweet, the publicly traded shares of Shenzhen-listed Sichuan Chengfei Integration Technology (CAC-SCIT), a sister company of JF-17 maker Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), rose 10% five minutes on Wednesday – hitting the maximum daily increase allowed on the Chinese stock market, according to the South China Morning Post. The shares in CAC-SCIT, which makes car parts, rose a further 10% on Thursday. CAC is not publicly listed. CAC-SCIT shares had dropped back 5.57% by midday on Friday.

    JF-17 Export Potential:

    The JF-17 recently won an export order from Nigeria. Next possible customer is Myanmar where JF-17 was recently seen in an air force parade. The New York Times has reported that a joint China-Pakistan defense manufacturing hubs in Pakistan is being set up to win new export customers among Muslim countries. Pakistan is already in talks with Malaysia for sale of JF-17s to Malaysian Air Force. There is potential to export close to a billion dollars worth of JF-17 Thunders.

    PAF’s Tail Choppers:

    Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui is a member of PAF’s 14 Squadron called ‘Tail Choppers’ which was officially re-equipped with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 fighters on February 16, 2017, according to AirForces Monthly magazine.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2133191
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    Congratulations, Andreas.

    I second LCDR David Barr in his review comment:
    “I equally anticipate reading Rupprecht’s other 2018 work entitled Carrier Aviation in the 21st Century: Aircraft Carriers and Their Units in Detail (as mentioned on page 51) and hope he continues to produce these “extensively illustrated compact yet comprehensive” works of art.”

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2208776
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    It will be an interesting 2018 looking for new test vehicles or variants of the J-10, J-20, FC-31, Y-20 and J-15 with domestic engines.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2209427
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    2017 Engine Advances

    1) WS-10 variant on J-20 bort number 2021

    2) WS-10X with AVEN nozzles on a J-10B/C

    3) WS-19 engine prototype assembled *

    4) WS-20 engine nearing testing on Y-20

    5) CJ-1000A prototype assembled **

    6) WS-15 reported in March to be “ready soon” ***

    7) WZ-10 turboshaft reported to be ready and powering Z-20 prototypes

    8) 2nd FC-31 prototype reportedly flew with WS-13

    * The WS-19 is to be the uprated engine to be paired with the FC-31 which is increasingly cited as the next Chinese carrier fighter.

    ** The CJ-1000A is a LEAP-level domestic engine from ACAE, a commercial engine builder, for the C-919

    *** http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2017-03/13/content_7524017.htm

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2128443
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    I think as important as the FC-31 airframe are the engines powering it. The V2 is smokeless (at least from the short video) unlike the original prototype.

    The chinese blogosphere claims they are WS – 13Es. This would give them a working medium thrust turbofan.

    The L-15 was deemed unwanted by the PLAAF as well but it is now accepted because there are domestic options for the powerplant.

    in reply to: China to lift veil on its J-10 . #2170902
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    clone: a person or thing regarded as identical to another.

    Calling the J-10 a clone of the Lavi is simply wrong.

    If China cannot procure the F100 then by definition it is a different aircraft because practically everything had to be redesigned for the larger Al-31. That’s not even counting the redesign needed for the lack of access to US parts.

    In the end, there are probably no exchangeable parts between J-10 and Lavi otherwise its progress would have just as easily been blocked by the US. It is stupid to think of it as a “clone.”

    The Lavi serves as a model for the planform and possibly as a dataset. But the lack of access to US/western parts means even if China had the entire set of blueprints it cannot reproduce the Lavi as a clone. The only time you can get exact clones are ToT like the J-11 and the Z-9.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2203145
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    China stronk crowd? What does that even mean? A group that doesn’t spam other groups is stronk?

    Yes, the Chinese thread revolves mainly around new pictures (which is something Bacon never provides) and that is good thing.

    It is trolls like Bacon that pretty much destroyed this forum for the serious watchers. Hardly any Chinese watchers (yes, that includes many white guys) participate here any more even though there are many, many major Chinese projects.

    This is a prime case of the kind of attacks the Chinese gets from trolls like Bacon. Almost all Chinese observers had established the J-20 to be roughly the dimensions of a flanker a long time ago. Here Bacon is making up lies about an entire group of people “wanting” it to be 20m as a form of derision.

    Having a highly respected, published member like Deino being attacked by a racist troll like Bacon who had never offered anything except insults and outright fabrications (Deino never said 19m) pretty much sums up the state we’re in.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205124
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    The funny thing is Deino gets it from some of the real PLA fanboys for being biased AGAINST China.

    We have one of the few published and respected China Mil watchers in the forum in the person of Andreas. While it is always good to approach information critically, there’s little doubt in this case that he applied the far more accurate techniques.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205382
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    Possibly! Depends if the fighter was designed around WS15 or not, differences between the dimensions of two engines etc. But I was referring to the rest of the airframe.

    Probably not in the case of the J-20 since the aircraft was designed with the WS-15 in mind.

    That said, since the J-10, the trend has been a decoupling of airframe and engine so that the airframe progresses even as the engine lagged.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2128399
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    J-15 cockpit:
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    CATOBAR J-15:
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    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2200480
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    good news about the engines. Once the Y-20 also gets its engines, we can seriously start talking about exports.
    There’s a number of mid-eastern/north african countries and central asian countries that are in need of a replacement of their il-76s.

    Unlikely that the Y-20 (and the WS-20 high bypass derivative of the WS-10) will be exported any time soon if ever.

    The most likely exports of new Chinese engines would be the WS-13 for the FC-31 and JF-17 and possibly the WS-17 for the L-15.

    It’ll take years (or maybe the entire manufacturing run) for Xian to supply enough Y-20s to the PLAAF which is deficient in lift.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2200587
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    With J-10b equipped with WS10 entering service, we can expect the total figure within chinese air forces to rise to 1000 within seven or so years.

    A reasonable guess. Another 200 J-11Ds and J-16s (and probably J-15s) plus 200 J-10(C?)s would net another 600 engines not counting the spares. Say around 24 planes per year each for SAC and CAC, it would take a little over 8 years.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2200664
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    http://mil.sohu.com/20160706/n458049903.shtml

    Over 400 WS-10 engines were installed on J-11Bs, J-11Ds and J-16s by the end of 2015. Their record has been flawless without a single crash of WS-10 powered types.

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