That’s like saying if you are afraid of the bully then don’t leave the house.
No it is saying that if you’re suspicious of a neighborhood then stay away from it. China is nowhere near your house. You have to go to the other side of the world to get there. So why bother if you truly believe you are getting fleeced?
If the neighborhood is as bad as you think then what have you got to lose from staying away?
If you get over your suspicions then join in. If not then stay away.
The fact is the benefits are far greater than the risks which is why everyone else is there. And why shouldn’t China extract as much as it can? Everything has a market value.
In fact the West uses the Joint ventures to enter in China but sooner or later the western finacial power will favour the western investment
Joint ventures are created to transfer technology for access to the local market.
If you want access to the Chinese market you are required to partner and transfer skills. If you are not willing then forgo the market. Any company that forgo the Chinese market is at a distinct disadvantage to the company who is in there. If GM or Boeing lost the Chinese market then their competitors who are in there would be in a dominant position in the global market.
If you are afraid of the Chinese violating your IP right then stay away from the market. It’s that simple.
Think about it, India is screwing themselves by not jumping on the bandwagon and cloning the Su-30mki, too.
First, you need the infrastructure to actually clone such an aircraft. Most countries outside of Europe, North America and the Far East (Japan, Korea and China) simply can’t build a fighter, cloned or not.
A tribe of bushmen or pygmies can’t make a refrigerator even if you gave them all the drafts and instructions. They just don’t have the infrastructure in place.
It is a silly thread. Where would the lawsuit take place? In what court?
Especially from Russia whose entire jet aircraft industry is based on stolen Western and German technology.
If and when there is a court case then this thread will make sense. Right now it is comedy.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1156151320080511
Venezuela’s Chavez to buy Chinese K-8 planes
Sun May 11, 2008 5:52pm EDTCARACAS (Reuters) – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Sunday the OPEC nation will buy Chinese military training planes, expanding recent arms purchases and further cementing a growing relationship with China.
Chavez in recent years has stepped up purchases of weapons and planes. Washington accuses the self-styled revolutionary of carrying out an arms spending spree that could destabilize the region.
Venezuela and China on Friday signed an accord to build a refinery on Chinese soil as part of a broader plan to reduce Venezuela’s reliance on U.S. energy markets.
“We’re going to buy Chinese K-8 planes,” Chavez said during his weekly Sunday broadcast, calling them “excellent planes for the boys.”
“We continue working on the issue of military equipment, even though they accuse me of launching an arms race,” he said. “I’m not launching an arms race. Military expenditures are necessary for the country’s defense.”
Venezuela has also bought 24 Sukhoi fighter jets and 100,000 Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifles from Russia.
Top White House officials have questioned the arms purchases given there have been few military conflicts in the region.
(Reporting by Brian Ellsworth and Patricia Rondon; Editing by John O’Callaghan)
© Thomson Reuters 2008 All rights reserved
You are not being serious, right?
You gotta yet find a type even remotely as successful as the Czechoslovak Aero L-39 Albatros. Take it from whatever side – number of operators, airframes built, versions available, reliability, operating cost.. all other types lose hands down.
The types are respectively the two most successful trainers for their Cold War bloc.
But given that the T-38 can go supersonic while the L-39 can’t and its side won the Cold War . . .
The K-8 has quietly become one of most widely exported jet trainer in the last decade, in most years it follows only the Hawk in orders.

The maker of the K-8, Hongdu, should be able to grab at least some of the follow-on orders for the L-15.

Russian has already informed China about the illegality of that, now we have to see what russia is going to do in concrete. but that the Russians are already complaigning is already a fact
One, there has been no official Russian case logged anywhere.
Two, as far as piracy is concerned, just this week, the US cited Russia as much of a violator as China.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h53Lg4-fGTvNehL9bjjbNXlq9Pnw
US cites China, Russia over counterfeit and pirated goods
1 day ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — The United States on Friday named China and Russia as among the worst protectors of intellectual property rights, flooding global trade with counterfeit items such as DVDs, designer bags, medicines and software.
Russia has no leg to stand on. And certainly not in any international court.
Russia would be the last one to have any leg on claiming piracy since the Russian jet industry was based on the stolen variants Nene engine.
In fact, the Mig-29 and Su-27 were based on stolen designs of the teen fighters if you look enough into US claims during the 70s to the 90s.
Russia has helped in the FC-1(JF-17) and the Chinese still sell it as if they did design it by them selves.
One of the most retarded claims I have ever heard. Russian firms were contracted to provide the engine and consulting on other aspects but how is contracting people means you give up ownership?
Does US firms contracting to Indian back office and outsourcing companies means their products now belong to India?
The FC-1 (and the J-10) has far Western origins than Russian.
The Kunlun is the latest turbojet in the J-8IIs’ WP series.
The JH-7’s Spey replacement is the Qinling which is a relatively high-bypass turbofan for a long range strike aircraft.
I think something was lost in the translation with the names. Qinling is a set of peaks near the Kunlun mountain range which can account for the confusion.
We had that photo of the J-11 in yellow primer and the WZ-10 in the background posted in these very same pics, news and speculation threads.
So it would seem they were/are testing the machines at CFTE in Yanliang and, of course, the proving grounds of Changhe (the maker.)
The T/A-50 for US approved customers and the FC-1 for the rest that would like something better than a F-7.
As for the F-7, they are still selling in good numbers for latest versions. Considering that latest new built light fighters sold in the past few years (outside the Block 60 F-16s to UAE — which can’t even be considered a “light” and certainly not inexpensive option) were F-7PG variants to Nigeria and Bangladesh.
The fact remains that there are very few viable options outside converted trainers and the second-hand market which almost guarantees the success of the T/A-50 and FC-1.
Second-hand F-16s are strategic in nature meaning that the US will release them to tightly allied nations only and a Hawk at $20m plus costs more than a base FC-1.
F-7, Myanmar Air Force.

http://armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&AID=2808&CID=2753&IID=&lng=eng
Friendly Enforcement: Jets for Azerbaijan seen as pattern of “Islamization”
By Aris Ghazinyan
ArmeniaNow reporterAn Armenian military analyst says a report that Azerbaijan plans to purchase fighter jets is consistent with saber rattling coming out of Baku over recent months and a greater strengthening of Pakistan-Azerbaijan ties.
According to Azeri APA news agency, Armenia’s enemy to the east plans to purchase Pakistani-made JF-17 jets which analyst David Harutyunov says is suitable for “small heavily rugged country, which is the zone of the Karabakh conflict”.
Azerbaijan is reportedly replenishing its air-force by JF-17 jets.
The fighter planes have a range of about 300 to 600 kilometers, with a combat load of 3.8 tons. Azerbaijan is reported to have ordered between 20-26 of the planes, which cost about $15 million each. The analyst says Pakistan plans to produce several hundred of the planes over the next 20 years for export and for its own military. The JF-17, also know as FC-1 is a replacement for the Chinese model of the Soviet MiG-21.
On the possible Azerbaijan FC-1/JF-17 sales.
http://www.today.az/news/business/42724.html
Azerbaijan to purchase JF-17 pursuit planes from Pakistan
29 January 2008 [15:53] – Today.AzAzerbaijan will purchase JF-17 pursuit planes from Pakistan.
APA reports with reference to the Defense Ministry of Pakistan that light pursuit plane JF-17, also known as FC-1, has been developed by China in cooperation with Pakistan.
The project was previously fully implemented in China. Pakistan took part in the development of various units and details. In late 2006 Pakistan got three ready pursuit planes for testing.
This plane was first presented on the Day of Pakistan on March 23 of 2007. The commander of the air forces Tanvir Makhmud Akhmed announced that in the next 20 years Pakistan will produce 500-600 planes of this kind including 150-200 ones for the needs of its own army.
This single-seated plane is equipped with a Russian-made engine RD-93 and its pay load is 3.8 tons. Its range ability is 3,000 kilometers.
The plane is able to carry air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles and other equipment. The cost of production is $15,000,000.
/APA/