A closeup of the model’s much talked about diverterless supersonic intakes.
I hope they also demonstrate live firing of weapons in this 04 Flight. Maybe an SD-10 or two. :p
I think we should be happy if it is carrying missiles. After all, the DSI and LERX are pretty radical changes from prototype 01 and 03.
Profile, undercarriage
Prototype 04 as seen in models. We’ll see how close the real is.
JH-7A. The file was posted on the Chinese-language WMF as a “scan.” Most likely from a mainland publication.
The best detailed picture of the A variant so far.
Pictures of the Kenyan crash from Yahoo News and Reuters.
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The crash took place while officials were headed to peace talks in an area of warring factions. The Y-12 belonged to the Kenyan Air Force.
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Kenyan doctors and medics carry one of the three people injured in the crash off yet another Y-12, belonging to the Kenyan Wildlife Service.
More on the Kenyan flight and possibility that it might have been shot down.
Also, some interesting insight on the Y-12 and its heavy usage in Kenya who been flying the type since 1997.
http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143950828
On the trail of the ill-fated military plane
By Cyrus Ombati and Allan Kisia
The ill-fated plane left the Moi Air Base in Eastleigh, Nairobi, at about 7am.
On board were six MPs, police officers, intelligence officers and members of the provincial administration. Their mission was to visit the border of Moyale and Marsabit districts where clashes had been reported.
Journalists were to accompany the entourage, but a senior government official declined. The passengers were at the airport as early as 6 am, ready to take the flight.
At the airport, two military pilots and three attendants waited for the takeoff. Three hours after the takeoff, one of the pilots, a Mr Mureithi, signalled MAB and reported that the plane had developed mechanical problems.
He told the military control tower that he had heard a bang on the rear side of the plane, adding that he could not tell what was happening. There was no further communication from the plane.
Hit by a heavy object
Other reports indicated that poor weather might have led to the crash. It was raining and misty in Marsabit at the time of the accident.
Government sources said the plane was either shot down or was hit by a heavy object, leading to the crash.
“That is what we are trying to establish,” said a senior government official.
After crashing, the plane went up in flames as villagers rushed to the accident scene. The villagers contacted the local provincial administration, which called Nairobi.
By the time rescuers arrived at the accident scene, six MPs were among those trapped in the burning wreckage. Moyale DC Peter King’ola, who was by then alive, told the rescuers that there were 18 passengers aboard the plane. He later lapsed into a coma.
He was rescued alongside Eastern PC Patrick Osare and two pilots, identified as Mureithi and Wamuiya.
When the Department of Defence headquarters received the gloomy news, it dispatched another plane to rescue the victims.
Cabinet ministers Njenga Karume and John Michuki and police boss, Maj Gen Hussein Ali, left for the scene too.
Made in China
The aircraft was a Y-12 manufactured by Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation, a Chinese firm. It was one of similar aircraft delivered to Kenya in July 2000 at a ceremony held at the Moi Air Base in Nairobi.
Former Chief of General Staff, Daudi Tonje, said the first batch of the six 17-seat planes arrived in April 1997. He said the aircraft had logged over 5,000 hours without any teething problems that normally accompany the introduction of such a new system.
The development of the Y-12 began in 1980; Type I was used chiefly in exploration and Type II is a passenger plane.
Founded in 1952, Harbin has more than 16,000 employees and is the sole Chinese builder of light helicopters and general aviation aircraft.
China and Kenya started their military exchanges with a Chinese military delegation visiting Kenya in December 1996.
Casualty. A Kenyan Y-12 crashed in an apparently weather-related accident during landing. Killing 14, including members of parliament.
Kenyan plane crash kills 14
From CNN’s Alphonso Van Marsh
Monday, April 10, 2006; Posted: 6:55 p.m. EDT (22:55 GMT)(CNN) — A Kenyan Y-12 military aircraft carrying government officials to a peace meeting in northern Kenya crashed Monday as it approached the Marsabit air strip, killing 14 people — including five members of parliament — government officials have told CNN.
Three of the 17 people aboard survived, John Abduba, deputy provisional commissioner for Kenya’s Eastern Province, said.
The provincial commissioner, Patrick Osare, was among the survivors, along with the two of the plane’s crewmembers, he said.
Osare was conscious and on his way to Nairobi for treatment, Abduba said.
A regional government official initially survived the crash but died en route to Nairobi for treatment, a government spokesman said.
Two of the dead members of parliament were also assistant ministers in the government. Another of the victims was an undersecretary in the president’s office. The others were lower level officials, police and Air Force crewmembers.
Government spokesman Alfred Mutua told CNN weather might have played a part in the accident.
“Initial reports indicate that the airplane may have crashed due to poor visibility caused by bad weather over Marsabit Hill,” he said.
I’m kind of surprised nobody’s mentioned it but the newest B-52 is 44 years old. In 2001 the average age of KC-135s in the inventory was 41 years.
😀 Good choice. The knee-jerk reaction when we hear “combat aircraft” is to think of fighters.
The B-52 will fly on for many more years too when all of the other old airframes are retired.
We don’t talk too much about the A-4 here, but what a design.
It was a carrier strike craft that carried a large bomb load on a tiny 27-foot wing span. It was developed to be simple to maintain at sea and to be capable of withstanding heavy damage. It was the USN most numerous and important attack craft during the Vietnam War.
But what was most impressive about it was that it was an attacker (remember the A in its designation) with such incredible handling and maneuverability that it ended up being used by the Navy’s Top Gun program as the main adversary plane in DACT before the F-16N.
If you are talking about original birds that are still flying and not simply old design then the title of oldest would belong to FT-5s, H-5s and F-6s of the North Korean air force. All three are no longer even produced anywhere in the world, even in China.
Unlike North Korea which has enough expertise to keep them in flying order, most of the MiGs in Africa from the 1960s and 70s were long unflyable.
Albania has F-6s and maybe a few original F-7s from that would be flyable today.
As far as western planes are concerned. Most countries that receive US arms are wealthy enough to upgrade them consistently. But a special case exists in Iran. Iran has keep its 1970s American aircraft in good order. So the F-14s, F-4s and F-5s are all over 30 years old.
The Philipines once had a nice collection of American aircraft include F-8 Crusaders from the Vietnam War era. But the PhAF has fallen into pretty hard times.
Singapore still has some surplus USN A4 Skyhawks from the 1960s, though Singapore itself received them in the 1970s. The last operational squadron was disbanded recently. There is a training squadron that still use them.
I heard that the Singapore Skyhawks were in extremely good shape. The A-4 is a marvelously robust design in function and simplicity. It is said to be one of those planes where you could over the years keep replacing parts on a plane that is still operational until you end up without a single piece from the original aircraft!
Ask Germans in the WWII, which side would they prefer to be captured from: Russians or Americans/Brits.
Obviously, the Americans/Brits. But the Germans themselves treated American/Brits far better than they did Russians/East Europeans. The Nazis really did put their practice of racial preference into practice.
In fact, German treatment of prisoners in the East was so entirely different from the way Western prisoners were treated that many in the West dismissed Russian claims of German atrocities as propaganda.
A very famous American writer, Studs Terkel wrote about this. The Eastern Front and the Pacific War between Japan and the US were wars of race and culture where no quarter was given or asked for. They were very different than the ones between Germany and the US, Uk or France.
This extended into American view of the Vietnam War too. If you read, “Bright Shing Lie” by Neil Sheehan, the racial aspect cannot be ignore. “Dinks, gooks, slants, slopes” were everyday terms used by American troops and their South Vietnamese allies were the ones who were called them the most.
The worse treatment of prisoners come from the Japanese. Mass killings of prisoners in China, the “Bataan Death March”, Manila, etc.
If you were American in WWII, you were far more likely to die if you were captured in the Pacific as opposed to Europe. (1)
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1. http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/alliedpoweto.htm
“Around 17% of Western Allied soldiers died while in German detention; Allied soldiers in Japanese hands had less than a 50% chance of survival.”
I have found the picture of China-made “Blue Sky” pod in Chinese web site.
It looks much different from the pod I have post.
That’s a terrain radar pod.
There has been some confusion as to the “Blue Sky” navigation and low-level terrain following pod developed for the JH-7 and the targeting and guidance system named “Blue Sky” we see in the J8II poster.
Either one of them is named wrong or “Blue Sky” is actually a package that includes both pods. The J-8II certainly does not need the terrain follower though.
The Chinese Blue Sky pod on a J8II advertisement poster and on the JH-7 test machine 084.