Suspected J-15 for CV.

No need Su-33. 😀

Ohh come on !!! We’ve already discussed that in the new’s section.

These are simply standard fighter-Flankers – here aka J-11BH – for the PLA-NAF and surely no carrier-capable J-15 (see the standard long sting !).

The only think what’s strange is the single aircraft in the middle of the lighter aircrafts with its taller tail suggesting a twin-seater.

Deino

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It had bigger, folding wings, fins and non-folding tailplanes.
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Was this new, bigger and improved wing ever considered for the Su-34 ??

Deino :confused:

… could be !

But IMO the second one has clearly a much taller tail than the others and (not 100% sure) it looks as if it has the larger rudder – see on the fin’s base – than a regular Flanker.

All others have the same tails … IMO.

I bet a cold one that it will not be so heavily laden with control surfaces. China wouldn’t use canards and tail planes on J-XX, if its truly stealth, they would use TVC and minimal control surfaces. The fan art looks like a cross between Su-30mki and the J-10, only using twin engines. I am very doubtful it would become reality.

hy … IMO China has some fine expieriences with delta-canard configurations – maybe more than with other ones – and that canards are not a complete no-go for stealth shows also Northrop NATF proposal.

Besides that – even if otherwise stated in CHinese rumours – I won’t expect an all-aspect stealthy type like the F-22 … more to the kind of the T-50 or lower.

Deino

You mean the MiG LFI, aka MiG-39, Russia’s equivalent of the F-35?
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Certainly it’d comprise the low-end of the prospective Russian 5th Gen fighters.

Hmmm … As far as I know these two are completely different types. The first one was the LFI, which was planned as a smaller / lighter complement for the 1.42 similar to the F-15/F-16 or Su-27/MiG-29 combo and the second one is a nice but it is just a fan-art.

Deino

For sure … esp. since there are so many of this Russian hyper-fighter operational ! :dev2:

I agree with You that the Su-35 might have an edge in performance and capabilities, but on the other side the J-10A is already operational since years in several regiments and also the J-11B – IMO this version has a clear edge the the “best” operational Russian AF Flanker, the Su-27SM – is operational in at least one regiment.

But the biggest problem also is this might have , since from the Chinese fighters You mentionend we have no real data in capabilities and for the Su-35 we have a lot of advertisments … also IMO not too reliable.

What’s intersting IMO, is what will happen the next years … !?

…. when will the Russian AF receive their first operational Su-35 ?
…. when will the PLAAF receive their first operational J-10B ?
…. how many J-11B will the PLAAF introduce in the same time ?
…. when will the Russian AF receive their first operational T-50 ?
…. and what has to be changed from prototype to serial version ?
…. and finally, when will the Chinese XXJ make its maiden flight ?

Deino 😉

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What’s critically missing is the turbofan engines. If the Chinese engineers want a proven supercruise-capable turbofan developed in a fraction of the time, they can reverse engineer the AL-41F and call it the WS-17.

That’s correct … but also not !

The lack of any reliable modern turbofans is or was the biggest problem for any Chinese fighter program since the foundation of the PLAAF. However it seems that with the latest types esp. WS-10A and now the WS-13 (for the FC-1) some considerable progress has been archieved … and also the latest rumours/reports on the WS-15 for the J-20 seem promising.

To “reverse engineer the AL-41F and call it the WS-17” is – honestly complete BS – since no AL-41F was or will ever be delivered to China and secondly to reverse engineer it would take even longer than to proceed with the WS-15 or any WS-10A-based design.

Deino