using this scale of dark greens

it is Ripe Olive

the bomber is

Brittany Blue

Fine :applause: … at least not DARK green and WHITE.

if the Russians ever build this, I might say this new one would be the best

these twin island designs are warming up to me

Indeed a handsome and impressive design; the main-issue however is simply that concerning Russian hardware and esp. such a mega-project – they are and will remain WHAT-IFs!

Off white vs gloss white would show the same contrast (tail tip) Just b/c off white is darker than gloss does not make it grey

You guys are indeed funny !!!

Are still convinced that it is a dark-white on the body and a light-white on the tip ??

… and concerning “GREEN” … the colour on the C919’s tail is what I would call green.

Deino

you better tell your boss, Tom, his artwork used the wrong color, unless you think this is not dark green

H6 bomber is a tricky one, i would say it is either a dirty white or a very very light grey

You take a first rough sketch of the J-20 from 2011 as final testimony that the J-20 is green ?!!! Come on ! Just look at his latest drawings at ACIC and by the way, why do You think he’s my boss.

Even more on the H-6, their tail tip is white and You can clearly see the difference to the rest of the body, which is grey.

you got a picture of the j-20 in pakfa paint?
I only recall the j-20 in dark green and raptor style

Dark green !??

When was the J-20 painted in dark-green ??

Russian manufacturer creates first full-size model of future strategic bomber — source

And Berkut noted, this is wrong:

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?137587-RuAF-News-and-development-Thread-part-15&p=2377557#post2377557

U didn’t answer my query or if you did, i didn’t understand it. What counts as a clean sheet design to you ? If the engine location and landing gear dimensions/components are the same , does that mean its not a clean sheet design ?

Because under the Russia design philosophy, they wouldn’t consider it a clean sheet design and they’d like it that way.

Reason I mention landing gear and engines is because some people use it as a slight against the Pak Fa and call it a stealth flanker because it has similar landing gear/engine placement as the su 35.

Ok … then I misunderstood Your post; SORRY.

IMO it is clearly a new design in the same way the T50 is surely not a flat- or Stealthy-Flanker but a new design !
Those are surely the same guys who think the J-10 is a Lavi-development and the J-8 is a development of the MiG-23. 😀

Russia rightly avoids clean sheet designs if it can.

But then this is a fail even before it started ! You cannot develop a MiG-35-based fifth generation design. You can surely use some subsystems, but structurally and airframe-wise it has to be a new design.