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These good photos are available, but these are really expensive pics.
For example, a nice, colour, camouflaged SovietAF MiG-21SMT slide is more than 2000 Dollars for publication.…
But maybe that’s the piont !! Why are these pictures so expensive ???
I for myself just had the same problem with a publication on Chinese projects … so, when I earn “only” about 350-400 € for a 25 page-long article I can’t pay so much for a single picture, esp. as the readers surely – and understandable – want more than one god picture !
I know an article for a monthly magazine is surely not in the same laegue as a book, but if these pictures alone are so expensive the publisher is not willing to pay for the pictures alone more than they earn by publishing and selling the book !
Deino :confused:
Regarding maybe future “exhibits” at Monino … is there a chance to see the Mikoyan MFI-prototype 1.44 – and also the S-37 (Su-47 Berkut) some day there ???
Or does anyone have an idea where it’s now ?
Deino
A small teaser for all Chinese aviation enthusiasts !
I know I have been quite “arduously” for some of You because of my endless questions on Chinese military aviation topics, but finally here’s the result.
Once initiated by Tony Buttler for an article regarding for an English magazine “Chinese Secret Projects” – THANKs for that ! – it now became a German three-part version at first.
These articles are to be published in the German “Flieger Revue” related to the development of the Chinese military aviation and its industry.
The first part of that includes the build-up after the foundation of the PRC until the mid/late 1970s with the history of the J-6 family, the early Q-5 and J-7 versions, the J-8I and J-9 programme for the fighters and the H-5, H-6 developments as the bomber projects H-6I, H-8I and H-8II (albeit very speculative !)
http://www.fliegerrevue.de/fr_extra.asp?PG=157&AID=18595
Part two – out now in September 2007 – continues with the J-7-family, the J-8I and J-8II, the speculative heavy J-10 fighter, the light-weight projects J-11 and J-12 until the latest projects from the 80s like the J-13 … along with modernised and special versions of the H-6 and Q-5. For the mud-movers it will include the JH-7 and Q-6 projects.
http://www.fliegerrevue.de/fr_extra.asp?PG=158&AID=19324
The final part – hopefully out in November – will then conclude the story with the Su-27 (J-11), J-10 and FC-1 and an outlook to the future !
For more esp. some of the colour profiles look here:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1641.0
Maybe some of You might be interested (even if written in German) I hope You like it, … cheers, Deino
Hmmm … new H-6U unit ??? Can anyone help me out ?
Cheers, Deino
I think it might be JH-7 or J-8 because the windshield is heavily framed.
Surely not, as there’s no twin-seater J-8 and the JH-7 has a different framing !
Deino
Here is the real thing !! 😀
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2328.msg19588;boardseen#new
Deino
Interesting photo. You can see the reflections off his visor where you can see he is holding the camera aiming at himself with both hands. The layout of the cockpit suggests this is the 2nd cockpit of either the JH-7A or even a J-10S.
Hey … very good ovservation and reagrding the single frame in the middle between both cockpits I would say it’s a J-10S and surely not a JH-7 !
J-10A no. 1 posted by hmmwv at the CDF 😀
Deino
Any idea or news, when Vol.22 will be out ????
Sadly their homepage hasn’t been updated since April !
https://airti2.sslcert19.com/airPower.php
CHeers, Deino :confused:
Hey … what a nice what-if !

Original J-9: source = http://www.china-defense.com/aviation/chinese_fighter_development/chinese_fighter_development-2.html
The J-9 project ran in parallel with the J-8 project but used a completely new airframe. The design target maximum speed was Mach 2.4 at above 20,000 metres altitude. In order to achieve this target the J-9 was fitted with an 8,500kg thrust turbojet engine and the 601 Institute initially used a tailless delta design. Development at this point shifted to the newly built 611 Institute and the Chengdu Aircraft Factory. At the beginning of the 1970s, the 611 Institute proposed a new design using a canard ahead of the delta wing (not dissimilar to the Swedish Viggen), but because it required new materials and know-how plus engine performance problems it wasn’t until 1975 before the design could be completed. The new J-9 design was quite advanced with air intakes on the fuselage sides featuring variable inlet geometry to alter the compression mixture. It used a 12,400 kg wet thrust turbofan engine and featured a Type 205 radar (search range about 70km) and four PL-4 radar-guided air-to-air missiles. The J-9 plan was discontinued in 1980. However, the effort was not totally wasted as the J-9 development enabled Chinese engineers to gain experience with the canard layout type, experience that would prove useful in the J-10 project.
The FC-1/JH-17 replaced the original J-9 program and has now taken its name.
YES, I know this project, but the J-9 was never called FC-1 – this is only a term used for the current FC-1 = JF-17 – … the name “Fishpaste” is completely new; that’s why I asked where do You have this information from, and the current FC-1 / JF-17 otherwise was never called the J-9, even if this is widely posted in the www. !!
So in summary of all the chinese fighter programs we officially have…
Shenyang J-4 Fagot
Shenyang J-5 Fresco
Shenyang J-6 Farmer
Nanchang Q-5/A-5 Fantan
Shenyang/Chengdu J-7 Fishbed
Shenyang J-8 Finback
Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Fishpaste
Shenyang J-11 Flanker
Xian JH-7/JH-7A/FBC-1 FlounderUnofficially we have…
Xian JH-7A Feibao (flying leopard)
Chengdu JF-17 Xiaolong (small dragon)
Chengdu J-10 Qianglong (vigorous dragon)
Shenyang J-12 XXJ
First of all there was never a J-4 !!! … and where do You get this “Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Fishpaste” as the Chengdu J-9 and the FC-1 are two completely different aircraft … !:mad:
Yes, once again a CG and faked … but anyway BRILLIANT !!!!
… just take a look here: 😮
http://www.sonicmodel.com/topicdisplay.asp?BoardID=23&Page=2&TopicID=2017315













Agree with Dazza, HAL HF-24 Marut, 147 built, not very successful, out of service 1985.
No, its truely an fake … here’s the link:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=14579&st=30&
… itS built by “ysi_maniac” and called “Mig-27 Shturmovik, Fuerza Aérea Revolucionaria de Cuba”!
Cheers, Deino 😎
That’s a funny fake from someone at the What-if-modeller’s forum based on a MiG-21 with side-air-intakes and a radome similar to the original Super-7 proposal !
CHeers, Deino