This is a good site for those interested in STOVL
International V/STOL Historical Society http://www.vstol.org/
Yes I know that link … but does anyone know why it hasnโt been updated for so long ???
Esp. the V/STOL Encyclopedia Series (http://www.vstol.org/encyclopedia.htm) โendedโ early 2003 !
Deino :confused:
I’m not sure if this has already been posted, http://www.afa.org/magazine/Jan2005/0105raptor.asp … but here are some more pictures and ibfo !
Deino ๐
And what’s this … looks for my opinion much like a Yak-concept !
Deino :confused:
Thank You very much !
Deino ๐
Just to enjoy ! Started by overscan …. Thanks a lot !! ๐ฎ
Two treads at the what-if forum regarding Mikoyan MFI/1.44 ideas and a possible Production configuration:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=4558
… and some interesting models of the Sukhoi S-32/S-37/Su-47 Berkut:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=4561
Deino ๐
very interesting picture …. do You have some more information ??
looks a little bit like this concept from EADS ?!?
Deino ๐
Sorry Hyperwarp … I have nothing more ! ๐
Deino
Sorry for posting this a second time …. :diablo:
From my observation, I gathered that the Chinese has at least three BVR AAM projects in the works, and quite likely, that PL-12 and the SD-10 are not the same missile.
Thanks a lot for that overview … but can You tell me anything about the situation for the Short range IR missiles ???
1. PL-8 (looks like a Phython III copy) … usualy seen under the outer wing pylons on the J-10 … also for J-8II
2. PL-9 I’m not sure but seems to be based on the PL-8 with some modifications, esp. the rear end !?
3. is there a new project under development ??? … something in the class of the ASRAAM, MICA, IRIS-T … ???
Thanks in advance, Deino ๐
Hey …. quite interesting !
But why don’t You call this thread just “Nanchang Q-6 – newspaper article” or something like that ????
Can anyone translate please ???
Deino ๐
From my observation, I gathered that the Chinese has at least three BVR AAM projects in the works, and quite likely, that PL-12 and the SD-10 are not the same missile.
Thanks a lot for that overview … but can You tell me anything about the situation for the Short range IR missiles ???
1. PL-8 (looks like a Phython III copy) … usualy seen under the outer wing pylons on the J-10 … also for J-8II
2. PL-9 I’m not sure but seems to be based on the PL-8 with some modifications, esp. the rear end !?
3. is there a new project under development ??? … something in the class of the ASRAAM, MICA, IRIS-T … ???
Thanks in advance, Deino ๐
Hmmm … I know that there are some persisted rumours that the J-7MF already flew … or is it still another mistake from FLIGHT International ???
Flight International 09 Nov 2004
…
Chengdu test flew the F-7MF in 2002, but the aircraft has since been parked. Chengdu continues to make improvements to the aircraft and is lobbying the government to fund more flight tests.BRENDAN SOBIE / ZHUHAI
Deino ๐
This is the only one that AF.mil has.
the no. 041 :confused: .. does that mean this one is the 41st built F/A-22 ???
Does anyone have a list of the so far produced and / or finished Raptors ???
Thanks in advance, Deino ๐
its engine nozzle also looks different, how do you think? ๐
I had the same thought, but the model looks like a wind tunnel model and so there are often the engines, nozzles and air intakes faired over aerodynamically … but here the air intake looks more cranked like the Tornadoโs or F-15โs one ! :confused:
XXJ???
I think so ๐ … looks quite impressive … but for my opinion the canopy could be higher and the tail should not end in 90ยฐ ๐
Does anyone know when the prototype construction will begin … first flight …. 2008/2010 ???
Deino ๐
Is this a new model of the JH-7 … it seems the airintake is different ???
Just found at CDF posted by “Mao Clone”
Deino :confused:
It’s disinformation from Edisonone and only Edisionone.
Oh please don’t judge that hard !!! ๐
I agree with You that Edisonone’ post are mostly strangly named … so You could think of desinformation … I tend to say Edisonone has a very strange sense of humor because some the pictures he posts are quite interesting like the J-10 picture above !
…. and the members of this forum who don’t like him or his posts …. why do they look at them ??? Here are some – just for my opinion – very useless posts and treads in this forum which I do ignore !
Kitbashing? That’s a computer graphics model not a plastic one. The ground is repeated texture map. If you can’t even tell a CG model from plastic model one, you shouldn’t be talking about kitbashing.
The model was in a Chinese language magazine “Aviation World Monthly” was an artist’s perception of the original J-10 swingwing from the 1960s. It was a real project.
Anyway back to that “Kitbashing J-10” ! … YES it is a computer graphics model but I’m sure based on the dimensons of a 1/48 Mirage 2000 and a 1/72 F-111 …. this is surely not the real concept of original J-10 swingwing from the 1960s !
I would give a lot to see just how it might have looked like !
So I really don’t understand how this artist’s perception found it’s way into this magazine ?????
For my opinion – or better overscan’s view – the original J-10 looked more like this one:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=3165&hl=shenyang
Deino :rolleyes: