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  • in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205127
    Deino
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    The issue however is simply that we are all here biased China-fan-boys and as such soooooooo much unreliable. Even more there are reports that say it is 23m long, it is a dedicated striker like a F-111 and those must be correct.

    Indeed, I ‘m again at the point of leaving the Kew-Forum, since – just look at this and the PAK-FA-thread – there are simply too many kids here, who not interested in facts, not interested in discussion and learning but simply on their own and bashing others opinion.

    But hey … I’m biased !

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205225
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    this is why you’re biased Deino. you are cherry picking images to fit your agenda. sure. ignore all the HD quality pictures comparing them from the side.
    cherry pick the top down, grainy pixelated low quality picture of the flanker and j-20.

    http://i48.tinypic.com/jshc9u.jpg
    its this pic that you base your 20M from, but you follow it so faithfully

    OH LOOK, blow it up in and zoom in

    https://s12.postimg.org/n7jkkyi31/flankerj20.jpg

    Look how much space in measurement he gave the Flanker.
    Sure, the yellow line on the J-20 goes right to the edge of the engine, but look at that huge gap on the flankers tail (maybe about 3-4 pixels), and the gap by the radome.

    Why don’t you put the j-20 side by side with the flanker. you will see its the same size

    But even then my bias does not make the J-20 larger/longer than a Flanker. Maybe the same size like You say, but surely not a 23m-monster.

    So You accuse me of being biased since I don’t use a HD-image that is not available, while in return You take any random link, old source or a HD-image of a F-22 without any scale reference … And You are not biased ? You rate Yourself objective ??

    Come on, we all have our bias, our favourites and prejudice, but the J-20 can never be longer than a J-15 regardless how much sharper or less blurred a GE image is.

    If You show me a HD-image showing right to scale both a Flanker and a J-20 then the J-20 will be at best about the same size —but again it won’t be larger and never 23m long.

    I thought You were smarter, but ok. … I’m biased and this is an apple since a strange link just told You.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205262
    Deino
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    Fine … to accuse one as being ignorant, a fan-boy indeed prevents You from thinking logically ??

    YES, I can google and even find tiny little green men landed on Earth and other strange things but why is my favour on the J-20 that You don’t seem to share so much a reason not for You too in return, to try to find the truth??

    Indeed my image based on GE is blurred, regardless the blur and given a length of the J-15 as a fix, then Your 23m-long should be longer by a wide margin than the Flanker … and it is strangely not.

    As such … You do not need to share my like, but You should at least be realistic and rational: How could the J-20 be shorter than a J-15 if the J-15 is only 21+ m long ???

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205276
    Deino
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    no that’s just you being oversensitive.

    The J-20 is flat, but not extremely long.

    no, the images are quite accurate. note that you didn’t even bother trying to include the f-22 image in yours, let alone the right kind of scale.

    J-20 is more likely 23 meters, as confirmed by many sources like
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=860

    Sorry … if I’m over-sensitive, then You are over-ignorant and I’m not sure how relevant it is to search for the original F-22 image.

    It’s simply some sort of math …
    Not sure what obscure link You just found to bake You claim, but most sources say it is about 20,30 (Wiki) or 20,35 m long. Just look at this image … otherwise You surely claim this J-15 is only a sub-scale model.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2205292
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    no, the sides are the worst. you can see how absurdly long it is. look at it compared to an f-22 juxtaposed with the j-20

    https://imgtaxi.com/images/small-medium/2016/10/03/57f2542c8793d.jpg

    Sorry, but sometimes I have the feeling You simply need something to mock ! The J-20 is flat, but not extremely long.

    Use at least some realistic dimensions. The F-22 is 18,90m long and the J-20 about – based on a comparison to a J-15 side-by-side – about 20,35m … so this is about 1,45 or 1,50 m longer And not as shown in You completely off image.

    Anyway … beauty is otherwise always in the eye of the beholder.

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2129596
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    @ JSR … You are indeed living in Your own world of phantasy ! Could You please leave all this political BS out of this forum; it’s simply annoying.

    Anyway …

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2129773
    Deino
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    And now there are already two grey ones + a yellow one.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2130387
    Deino
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    :applause:

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2131536
    Deino
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    :love-struck::love-struck::love-struck:

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2131670
    Deino
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    Today even three J-20s were seen at CAC….

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2131893
    Deino
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    From the news thread (link provided by Tango III)

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-efHSGIlqnUI/V-lvmFgG32I/AAAAAAABN50/jatd4U6qIhUikiLaZyAiXiQwq8vSK77VwCLcB/s1600/j-20-f22.jpg

    http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/09/current-lockheed-test-pilot-says-china.html?m=1

    You really believe in this dated and completely wrong image !??

    By the way … it’s so much funny to read such comments:

    It basically is a copy as China stole TERAbytes of F-35 data and they pieced together the basic tenets of stealth technology and apply them to its modern aircraft designs.

    … even more since some Russian fan boys in return claim it to be a copy of the 1.44 ! :highly_amused:

    Anyway …

    Deino

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2012045
    Deino
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    Slowly looking like a real carrier !

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2135097
    Deino
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    Another new J-20A spotted at CAC today …

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2012050
    Deino
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    Island liften on Type 001A today …

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXV #2138367
    Deino
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    Comparing some of the design features of a 5th gen stealth aircraft with the Pak Fa is entirely valid.

    You just don’t like the idea that all the hype that the critics have leveled on the Pak Fa about the air intakes is being cleanly nullified.

    No, surely not and I wish the PAK-FA all the best.
    What I simply do not like is that typical overhyping of some here especially since some things are simply so much clear since years that to repeat them again ad nauseam simply does not makes any sense !

    Deino

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