Posted today at the Top.81-Forum, this is one of the first two serial J-15s in full PLANAF markings. Identified were so far the numbers 102 and 103 (as shown).
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Thanks for this link !
But this is exactly the problem of “sources”: What the first report from Jamestown calls “Why China Wants the Su-35” (published October 10.) is just posted a bit later as “How China Plans to Use the Su-35” (November 27.) … what is a completely different thing !
An analysis “WHY” the PLAAF might purchase this type – and to admit I would be glad if they do so ! – is different to a report, that assumes that the deal is already done and badly connctes it to the recently established ADIZ by telling something like “will use“.
Deino
Oh come on … a contract so far not confirmed, not even with the ink dried … and some “experts” are already discussing about their use !
Palembang- What systems,avionics,radar,engines,etc would Russia get if it buys the J-31?What do you know about the J-31 that the rest of us don`t?What does the J-31 offer that PAKFA does not?
Sorry, but that’s a stupid statement !
It is not the point what it offers more (in comparison to what the T50 could or will offer) but simply can the RuAF afford so many T50 that all older types can be replaced … or could it be an option to purchase also a smaller design similar to the F-35, which maybe offers not everything but is probably a bit more affordable to be purchased in larger numbers. As such with already an Russian engine … it could be an option even more if Russian avionics would be used !
Deino
Can anyone help me out …. 🙁
http://www.comac.cc/xw/zhxwby/201311/26/t20131126_1231272.shtml
2013年11月25日,C919大型客机翼身组合体综合验证项目中机身、外翼翼盒总装大部段在中航飞机西飞成功下线。
此次下线的C919大客翼身组合体大部段在核心制造技术上实现了多项突破:首次在国产机型上采用激光成型件加工中央翼缘条,首次采用铝锂合金材料加工机身蒙皮,采用20mm超厚机翼蒙皮数控喷丸成形技术、17m机翼折弯长桁加工技术。
下线仪式上,中国商飞公司副总经理、C919大型客机项目总设计师吴光辉代表中国商飞公司对中航工业及中航飞机西飞在C919项目研制工作中给予的大力支持、密切协作表示感谢,希望各参研单位继续团结一心、凝聚力量、攻坚克难,奋力推进项目研制。
中航工业副总经理耿汝光表示,中航工业将继续以高度的使命感和责任感,全力支持型号研制工作,力争让中国人自主研制的大型客机早日飞上蓝天。
中航飞机西飞总经理何胜强介绍了C919大客翼身组合体综合验证项目中机身、外翼翼盒大部段研制工作历程和下一步工作安排。
2012年2月,中国商飞公司确定西飞承担大型客机翼身组合体综合验证项目中机身、外翼翼盒大部段制造及翼身组合体总装任务。在各参研团队的共同努力下,2013年6月26日,C919翼身组合体综合验证项目中央翼上壁板开铆;9月-10月,中央翼、外翼翼盒、中机身总装相继开铆,11月25日翼身组合体综合验证项目“中机身、外翼翼盒大部段”顺利总装下线。
Is this already the first prototype or simply a test-module ?? :confused:
Deino
:highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused:
To admit it’s becoming ever more confusing ! :confused::confused: So far I thougth that the Sharp Sword is a joint SAC/HAIG-product, whereas the Soaring Dragon joint-wing UAV is a joint CAC/GAIC-product … as such this image showing both new UAVs as well as a JL-9H gives me some mysteries !!!??? 😮
If this image is taken at Nanchang (home of HAIG) it would explain the Sharp Sword in the background, but not the JL-9 and Soaring Dragon.
On the other side if it is in contrast taken at Anshun/Huangguoshu where GAIC is at home, it would explain the JL-9 and the Soaring Dragon, but what then does the Sharp Sword is doing there ???
Deino
Fine !!!!! … and that flight took place in Nanchang at Hongdu’s facility ??
By the way could it be that the images we got posted as the H-18 were in fact psed images of the Lijian simply to confuse ???
Deino
Deino,
14 pages seems like a little on the light side to me, but if the information is solid then perhaps I can be persuaded to make a purchase… 🙂
Maybe this can help You to decide ….
Just found … written by David L. Veres !
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/ref/cp/book_cp_dragon.shtml
In introducing his book, Andreas Rupprecht candidly identifies rapidly changing events as the chief obstacle to accurately chronicling Chinese aviation history.
“[N]ew developments are happening in China all of the time,” he writes, “and one can be certain that new information will appear immediately afterwards. That is the risk one has to take.”
I, for one, am glad he took that chance: Rupprecht penned Dragon’s Wings, his thoroughly informative, highly entertaining chronicle from Classic – an imprint of Ian Allan Publishing.
Subtitled “Chinese Fighter and Bomber Aircraft Development”, the lavishly illustrated, 224-page account details development of frontline combat types. Most intriguingly, it also reveals numerous secret Chinese projects. And along the way, it corrects many myths, mistakes and misimpressions.
Coverage begins with the earliest Soviet jets in PLAAF/PLNAF service, segues to licensed production of MiG-17 and MiG-19 variants, recaps the native JJ-1 trainer, and continues with the first largely indigenous fighter designs and MiG-21 developments.
That’s where Rupprecht unearths nuggets like the Dong Feng (DF) 107 and DF-113 – advanced concepts that confirmed maturing Chinese design talents. But when they failed to achieve production, China successfully developed domestic derivatives of the MiG-21F – the Chengdu-built J-7, the vastly enlarged J-8 and, eventually, the almost unrecognizably related FC-1/JF-17 “Thunder”.
Next comes a fascinating chapter on further “In-House” projects. Coverage thereafter hits crescendo with sections on today’s modern Chinese designs – the stillborn J-9, world-class J-10 and stealth J-20. Some of these allegedly equal the best world’s best warplanes. Did Israel materially aid J-10 development? The author’s research offers no definitive answer.
I especially enjoyed Rupprecht’s segue into strike, attack and bomber types – notably Q-5 and H-6 variants, my personal favorites. How about that turboprop Il-10? And that torpedo-carrying Q-5B? Or that Xi’an H-7 study? The last resembled a hybrid Tu-16 and B-52!
Dozens of rare photos, color profiles and helpful sidebars augment text. Charts conveniently distill variant details. And Bai Wei’s digital illustrations of Chinese projects provide intriguing peeks at what might have been.
Our Chinese cups truly runneth over. And this volume perfectly complements other recent references – including Chinese Air Power (Midland), Chinese Air Power (Harpia) and Chinese Aircraft (Hikoki).
But with extensive coverage of key designs – almost a medley of monographs – Classic’s Dragon’s Wings stands apart. Author Rupprecht offers plenty of previously unseen information for a truly compelling chronicle. I really enjoyed this enormously informative effort.
Roundly recommended!
CHeers, Deino
I really want to know WHAt You are smoking … or do You only have so much fun to spoil a tread ???
If You want I find in neraly each and every type design elements of other types … by the way this comparison is way off due to the wrong length of the J-20 (which is actually shorter than a Flanker !!)
+ maybe the latest leak !!! :confused::o
Deino
Maybe or not maybe ….
Yes for sure, the Q-5 is covered in Chapter 8 (p. 154 – 167) … the same for the J-8, which is covered in in Chapter 5 (p. 76 – 99).
At least IMO You will like it ! :angel:
Cheers, Deino
But either is is a new design, a much smaller MALE or a completely redesigned Xianglong!!