PAK YES?????

First modules of the Type 003 carrier confirmed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1023087061488881666

Interesting… however how likely is this to ever materialise as a pure British project in mind of the Brexit and after France and Germany decided to go ahead with their joint effort?

Oh okay my bad!

No problem, and sorry, if I was a bit hash with my reply.

The J-20 – and no other PLAAF-type – has the ability to be refuelled via a boom and also the J-20 has a IFR-probe similar to the J-10, but retractable.

1. That particular addition of the webzine is from 2016.
2. There is nothing that backs up your first assertion anywhere to be seen (please provide a quote from the webzine in Turkish that backs your claim)
3. Your following assertions seem to be baseless, optimistic speculation unless you have actual official documentation.

I must admit I would rate nothing official from Turkey in regard to these countless phantasy-programmes – or should I say propaganda – as reliable.
Just look at the trainer, which was said to be nearly done, a semi-completed prototype was boosted which in the end was nothing more than a crude mock up that now again several months later looks again very much different … will be interesting, how the next iteration will look like, when president Erdogan announces the next elections.

Chinese internet is going wild over it with many thinking its a new medium airlifter.
this one came from a popular site called chinchin

NO, not really the Chinese Internet, but some stupid fan-boy pages like the “popular site called chinchin”. I don’t know why all that hype. Even the original poster of these images confirmed by the c/n – just look at the post I made one page back – it is NOT the Y-30, it is plain and simple a test specimen of the Y-20 manufactured already in 2009 … this “thing” was built also at XAC and not at Shaangxi, which develops the Y-30.

Chinese Y-30. To be equipped with DSI intake plus engines, like on their fighters, drones, trainers, etc

Nope … if you look at the c/n of that bird it’s just an older Y-20 static test frame.

With respect Deino,

(1) Lack of experience does not mean Turkey cannot have such programs nor does it mean that such programs will be a total and utter failure.
(2) Co-production and licence production of platforms are achievements in and of itself which lead to indigenous programs.

In return with the same respect … and YES, I know but my point stands:

That’s the way it goes but not with the number of projects in parallel at the given budget and even more unlikely within that mentioned timeframe.

Just look at the trainer T-X: when the first blurred image was leaked you were immediately jumping it is the prototype soon ready to fly, later it came out it was only a mock up and you replied that won’t matter since the true prototype is also close to being finished … now – several months passed by – nothing happened and it seems quite to the contrary the design was changed several times in the meantime, is still not finalised and all these announcements to see a maiden flight in 2018, flight testing ended in 2012/21 and service entry soon thereafter are nothing more than hot air.

The same with the 6t heli and even more with the new 10t heli and combat type. … these are all vapour ware; nothing more and IMO I expect either TAI concentrates on one or two projects or all will fail.

Deino