I don´t like Tigers….even our goverment loves that cat, Trigat is even worse, and BTW why only two hardpoints of the Tiger can afford 19 rockets launchers, or even Trigat missiles? the other two hardpoints are only for 7 rockets launchers or the couple of Mistral missiles….

What we feel?

A good question, all the conservatives says a very simple thing NO SURRENDER, to any terrorism

Socialists call murderers to the conservatives, and even some of them says that we must talk with AQ “boys”

The new goverment is going to put Moratinos for the Foreign Affairs…this guy is one of the most beloved Arafat friends (Sorry for the deals with Israel)…., and they put in Economy another “Nobel Prize” one of the guys touched by the Eurostat scandal

You can see the Guardia Civil deployed in refineries for example, and the Army in another installations

Our troops in Iraq, defending their base, and our multinational Brigade in Iraq lost one soldier from El Salvador Army.

Our last (but no least) Civil War was more complicated than some fascists Vs communists in the streets, and some foreign medias says that we are heading again to another civil war…:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I heard that the EC-635 deal for Portugal was cancelled because one of the portuguese requests was the integration of the HOT3 ATGM (Why not Trigat or even better Hellfire?), and Eurocopter was delaying the integration in that helos.

That EH-101 keeps the traditional scheme of the portuguese Pumas..and that Pumas were painted for the african wars in the late 60´s like all their Alouette III, almost 40 years ago….time for a new scheme? We could wait until their new NH-90 for the Army…

Now they still need a replacement for their Alouettes

I´m with you Keltic, now a retirement of our troops in Iraq is an act of cowardice of the socialists, a bad thing that a goverment accepts a blackmail, if we accept one time, we will accept another at least, what´s the next? Ceuta? Melilla?

At least we keep our flag (at least for now)

I deleted all my post in this thread because I´m still enraged for that massacre and isn´t the best time for say what I´m feeling, I beg your perdon for all.

Peruvians had money but their boughts are also very strange, for example getting some old Mi-8/Mi-24 from Nicaragua without almost remaining life, they also received all that obsolete Canberras from South Africa, they also received some used An-26/32 with too many flight hours, one Hip crashed with all his policemans cargo, because they bought older Hips.

Well they had a corrupt goverment, for example Alan García, (he bought all that Mirages 2000…but without any weaponry), any of all that Fitters (54?) has flight more than 1.000 flight hours…in more than 20 years.

they need a reasonable program of boughts, used Mig-29´s aren´t the solution, getting non operational R-77´s isn´t the solution, getting used Hips isn´t the solution for a operational air force.

This is the argentine plane Comint? Elint? or something like that