I think films like this are more about capturing the emotion, the Human side the suffering and the sacrifice. The more realistically this is done the better and bad language is part of this. Both Johnnie Johnson and Bader both swore like troopers and I am sure so did the majority of other pilots when in a stressful situations.
What made an impression on me was the loneliness of a Fighter Pilots existence, close friends being killed daily, restricted their willingness to get close to others and the fact that once in the air they were alone.
We all have to remember this was made for the general public not forum members 99% don’t know the difference between a MK I and a MK IX and don’t probably care.
I think they did their best to keep it accurate but at the end of the day it has to be entertaining to all, not just aviation enthusiasts.
As far as the BBC were concerned it was a success viewing figures were very good apparently.
Personally I enjoyed it despite not enough footage of the out of place MK IX. :diablo:
Hello Kev
Sorry have been out all day.
You are quite right the chap you found is confirmed by the family to be the right man the parents and area tie up, It has nothing to do with the B of B Pilot I first thought it was. I simply made the mistake of getting W A confused with A W.
The chap who originally owned the escape hatch was this mans brother A C Wooley I want to esablish a conection between him and the door, I would imagine this happened at one of the OTU’s the Hurricane went to, or possible an MU.
I am useless finding stuff on google and cant find anything on A C Wooley.
If you still need to ring you I will after dinner.
Thanks again
Graham
Thankyou Kev
Your skill at interrogating google is far superior to mine could not find a thing. This is definitely the Brother of the previous owner of the escape hatch, a quick look at fighter command losses shows nothing so I am assuming he was a Bomber pilot, will remove the fighter Squadrons from the list for a start.
I am also awaiting more info from the family. Could you do me a huge favour and work your magic on A C Woolley also RAF survived.
Regards
Graham
Ok here goes there was a Great Grandfather W A Woolley who was killed in the war. The picture shown relates to him, the only sg Pilot I can so far find that was killed was A W Wooley died during the Battle of Britain is it possible that this is the same person with initials transposed or is there an W A Wooley. Is it usual for a someone to recieve this scroll or was it under special circumstances.
The owner of the escape hatch was the Son of W A Wooley, A C Woolley cannot find any info on him although apparenty broke his back falling off an aircraft wing.
The Brother of A C Wooley was also in the RAF M. W .Woolley the plot thickens.
Seems strange that both father and Sons could be involved in WWII but not impossible I guess?
[QUOTE=kev35;1639119]Graham.
So yours was the grey and green model that looked absolutely and totally out of place? 😀
Thanks me 😮
You say you were, but are you sure?
Not everyone can be one of ‘The Few’- otherwise there would be far too many.
I think I ought to know i was there for three days with baz there are plenty of pictures on another thread somewhere, in addition you can see my replica in many of the shots 4 blades and white spinner.
Phillip Whiteman ( Editorial Team -Key Publishing ) is the brother of the Director and has makes the following obsevation on the Flyer forum
”The budget stretched to putting Sam Hueghan, who played Geoff Wellum, in the back seat of a Yak-52 for half an hour’s filming on one afternoon in May. The only Spitfires available for the money were the Mk XVI maintained at Booker by PPS and a fibreglass dummy MkI – that was it. There was nothing left over for air-to-air; all of that had to be done from selected unused B o B film stock, shot almost entirely in brilliant summer VMC.
The costume designer told me his total budget would just about have covered one pair of shoes for a feature film. Did anybody notice how the authentic dun-coloured summer 1940 Mae Wests were painted yellow in the later scenes, just as they were in real life?”
Sounds as though they have done a lot with pretty meagre funding, which makes it all the more creditable.
And a MK IX replica I was there??
Its all good stuff. I am still trying to make a link between the original owner and the escape hatch, its seems the story is more complicated than originally posted something I hope to clarify shortly. So far it now appears the original owner only died two years ago, but both his father and Brother who were also both in the RAF died during the War. I am waiting for an email with all their initials and then hope to sort out who did what. :confused:
Stringfellow proved that steam and flight don’t really go together, hours stood in cold wet fields in January waiting for some lump of metal to go past when I’d rather be anywhere else put me off for life, at least at airshows you get to see plenty of aircraft at any one time and the weather in generally tolerable.:dev2:
StringFellow live near me in Chard Somerset and is as far as I know credited with the first powered flight of an aircraft albeit not piloted, considering steam technology available at the time his aircraft worked remarkably well.
This brings to mind a much more sucessful steam powered aircraft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6NFmcnW-8
This is an amazing piece of engineering and certainly had allot of advantages over its petrol powered rival. The engine could be reversed for braking and was almost silent.
according to the this coment on utube steam is actually more efficient than petrol.:)
“It has been proven that external combustion systems are not only more efficient than their internal combustion counterparts, but can also maintain a higher fuel efficiency when applied correctly. More in my next comment.”
Large power plants running combined cycle ie gas turbine with exhaust heat recovery steam boiler and steam turbines are knocking on 60% Boiler and steam turbine power stations over 40% Huge 2 stroke turbo blown diesels around 50%”
Maybe the Spitfire should have been powered by steam :diablo: or imagine a Lanc with four steam engines, would have made an amazing stealth aircraft.
Either way they do work 😀
Thankyou great picture, I am now clear on its function I assumed it was a door, learnt something new again. It certainly seems a good idea and makes life allot easier for the ground crew to service the cockpit.
Watch out for EN398 you might see the moment when my heart sank as I started the engine and the prop failed to spin the hydraulic pump blew as soon as they called action.:(
Thankyou
Sgt. A.W.Woolley joined No 601 Squadron on the 5th of July 1940 from No 604 Squadron, where he had been since the outbreak of war. Sgt. Woolley was on patrol in his Hurricane(P3681) off Selsey on the 11th of July 1940 at 18:20hrs. He baled out over the Isle of Wight after an attack on a Heinkel 111. His aircraft was a write off, he survived but was burned and wounded. In another Hurricane (V7238), on the 26th of August 1940 at 16:00hrs, he crashed at Great Totham, Essex and he survived the crash. Sgt A.W.Woolley was shot down three times during the Battle Of Britain
What a hero burned and wounded then back in action shot down again 6 weeks later then again when he was presumably killed. Its makes you wonder how they stuck it, quite incredible bravery.
Anyone who doesnt get a shiver up their spine when they see one of these is either lying or mad. 😀 or is that afraid ?, Im confused maybe I have said to much 😮 If it had wings I am sure it could fly perhaps where I get this unatural fascination from, I need help 😮
Interesting so would the pilots use this to get in or out? or simply jump in over the top, I could imagine they went through a few of these not being attached to the aircraft, unlike a Spitfire door it seems very fragile, a hasty exit could see it hit the floor and smash. Its unbelievably light almost like its made of balsa wood.
Watch this space there is at least one more item from the same source.
Whats known if anything about its original owner Sgt A W Wooley hes on the Battle of Britain honour role.
I believe it was removed before it went to MU as it belonged to A W Wooley who was killed in the Battle of Britain, he told his wife it belonged to the sister aircraft of the one he flew what ever that means.