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  • in reply to: ACC starter trolley #1122228
    Graham Adlam
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    Thanks Ant

    Thats great at least it confirms some used wire wheels, its a pitty the image isn a bit bigger it would help alot can you post the link to where you found it please?

    Regards

    Graham

    in reply to: Lancaster bomb loads #1119512
    Graham Adlam
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    Here is spool that pulled the pin from the bomb once it was clear of the bomb bay and recoiled back. And a pic of the Lanc Bomb bay at Duxford.

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109479
    Graham Adlam
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    Radioactive Substances (Luminous Articles) Exemption Order

    Here are FACTS to owning or disposing of instruments updated last in 1993.

    This order provides exemption and exclusion from registrations under the Radioactive Substances Act 1993 in respect of luminous articles (e.g. instruments, signs, indicators, clocks and watches). The order also provides for conditional exemption from the need to be authorised under the Act for the accumulation or disposal of radioactive waste arising out of the articles (or their use). There are some specific differences in compliance requirements for the two classes of article covered under the order – e.g. the radioactive material in a Class A article must be covered by glass or other protective coating except when cleaning, testing, maintaining or inspecting

    http://www.ionactive.co.uk/pdfs/Luminous_Articles_Exemption_Order.pdf

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109495
    Graham Adlam
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    This is all very interesting but there are few things that don’t seem to add up.
    Tangmeres friend admits he is not an expert!
    Although he seems to prevent a balanced view there are no measures quoted.
    What troubles me is that if these gauges are so dangerous how is it that many surviving aircrew live into their eighties after having been exposed to fresh material for many hundreds of hours.
    One Pilot I knew personally did 3000 Hrs operationally and lived well into his eighties; surely an exposure of 3000 hrs would have killed him or at least significantly shortened his life according the last view expressed?
    The flight engineers sat with their faces practically up against the glass and yet again many live very long and healthy lives.
    Is it possible some people are more resistant to radiation than others? I very much doubt it.
    Its simply does not add up to say you must leave the canopy off to allow the radon gas to disperse when its a proven FACT that thousands of aircrew were exposed a great deal more than any collector or modern display pilot and lets remember these instruments were new then and yet they live healthy lives.
    Hundreds if not thousands of people collect and own these instruments for the last 60 years why haven’t we seem seen premature deaths of collectors?
    Lets remember its the vintage vehicle collectors as well as the aviation enthusiasts who are exposed.
    Is there one single documented case of anyone dying or suffering health problems as a result of exposure to instruments?
    The only documented cases I am aware of are the girls that painted the faces who were exposed to huge quantities of dust, licked the brushes to keep them sharp and even were known to paint their teeth and nails. Even then not all suffered health problems.
    I have heard allot of theories where is the proof? Where are the documented cases?
    I took the advise of of Tangmeres friend many years ago and did research myself and the only documented cases I could find of health problems were with the girls that painted the faces.
    We should all be very careful about what we say without PROOF or FACTS.
    Everything from weed killer to cosmetics are tested on animals and reports published in medical journals where are the tests that proove exposure to instruments cause health problems?
    Dont forget its not just wartime instruments, many cockpits, aircraft could be heading for the nuclear dump and maybe even permits to dig or recover old aircraft could be refused on the grounds of the risk of contamination.
    As to the threat of a dirty bomb from a terrorist, is this a JOKE??????? Considering the value/cost of WWII aircraft instruments he would have to be muti-millionaire to gather enough material to make a dirty bomb, I would think smoke detectors would be a better buy.
    At the end of the day the Government/MOD released these instruments onto the market, They would be liable for any claims relating to health issues if any are ever proven, including the finacial loss to collectors who have their instruments confiscated.

    .?:confused:

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109362
    Graham Adlam
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    😀

    Gosh…a container of instant sunshine!

    A bottle of instant sun tan never killed anyone. I certainly won’t be sending you any fags or booze as it’s a proven fact they kill thousands of people a year. Very strange that the collecting, sale and consumption of those noxious chemicals hasn’t been banned yet.
    Did you know that a cork from some bottles of alcohol can take someone’s eye out, better keep an eye out for terrorists buying corked bottles; they might make a rocket launcher. :diablo:

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109371
    Graham Adlam
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    Covered here http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1534834&postcount=72

    IIRC you’ll find that both pieces of legislation apply – certainly to groups, traders etc you need to have a license – not 100% certain about an individual.

    Good sensible advise thankyou I will take it. 🙂

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109373
    Graham Adlam
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    Oh dear.

    I have been accused of many things in the past 😉 but now it seems that I can add starting a war to that list. A nuclear war, at that!

    PS – just wanted to add in a splash of red so as not to feel left out.

    Andy for Christmas this year I am going to send you a clock with a very large WINDING handle.The face will of coarse be nuclear free, although a little suntan never hurt anyone. 😉

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109392
    Graham Adlam
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    That link seems to apply to working with radioactive material in the workplace not collecting instruments.

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1109409
    Graham Adlam
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    The information is quite clear it relates to ALL radioactive instruments including radium 226. The legislation was updated in 2001 in regard to watches and clocks ONLY.

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1108991
    Graham Adlam
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    Got to be careful pursuing that argument Graham, as was pointed out to Spitfireman and myself today, by a very respected head curator, the levels of various cancers in 60-80 year old men is high. Some peoples bodies and immune systems react to exposures to any chemicals in different ways of course, but for every healthy ex airman I know of a certain period, I can think of a few more that have had cancers.
    As much as I think some of this is indeed overboard, there is clearly a need to take the subject seriously and be able to demonstrate that we are taking some responsibility, and safeguarding our collections.

    I quite agree its something that has to be faced better now before legislation becomes worse, that being the case personally i am going to take profesional advice.
    Will update this thread where appropriate.

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1108821
    Graham Adlam
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    I have to say allot of info on here is speculation and heresay and I remain skeptical of the real risks however we do live in the Health and safety world which is getting ever more restrictive.

    This being the case I am taking some of the more sensible advise posted here and contacting a specialist here is a link.

    http://www.ionactive.co.uk/clients.html

    There are strict rules surrounding radiation and so there should be however current legislation provides exemptions within its framework. One might call it common sense.

    If you have concerns dont rush out and buy a piece of kit that you dont really know how to use or understand talk to someone that really knows and follow their advise.

    in reply to: Confiscated WW2 Aircraft Instruments #1103975
    Graham Adlam
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    I will post the advice given by a professional who deals with the radiation industry as per earlier link. I did call him unfortunately he had been burgled the night before and told me to call back in a few days which I will do on Monday.
    I did ask him if I was committing any offences and wether I was liable to have instruments confiscated. The answer to both questions was no, he said that our issue was right at the bottom of the pile as far as radio active items in the public domain was concerned.
    These instruments can be cleaned up and I am waiting to see what that involves there may be a gap in the market for this specialist service.
    So like some of the other posters here think twice before you dispose of something you may later regret.

    in reply to: Early Prop recovered from the Sea #1099335
    Graham Adlam
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    Looks to have counter weights

    in reply to: Early Prop recovered from the Sea #1099076
    Graham Adlam
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    I will try and get that info asap thanks for the info so far at least Spitfire is ruled out.

    in reply to: Early Prop recovered from the Sea #1098714
    Graham Adlam
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    Just found this report that seems to tie in with the location the prop was found.

    Date: 14-AUG-1940
    Time:
    Type: Vickers Wellington Mk.I
    Operator: RAF 15 OTU
    Registration: L4308
    C/n / msn:
    Fatalities: Fatalities: / Occupants:
    Airplane damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
    Location: 5 miles off Lundy Island, Bristol Channel – Atlantic Ocean
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