following secretive filming conducted at the service’s Coningsby air base in Lincolnshire in early September.

These journalists certainly like to spin for effect. RAF Coningsby has MOD sponsored public viewing areas. Not to mention the BBMF visitors centre. The Typhoon/Bugatti race and filming was seen and photographed by numerous individuals.

Images

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=9;t=37825

Videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X7V7LMNF5Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3z1L0YMglo

In the world of Politics a peace treaty can be broken, politicians usually break what they say, however in this case the most likely is China won`t sell the J-10s but only time will tell there must be a reason why the Russians and Israelies reported that.

It’s called slow days in news agencies. One news agency creates a fantasy tale and another runs with it. Look at the stories of Russia selling Iran S-300s. Everyman and his dog jumped on that one.

Some recent video from Engels. A few aircrew interviews.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1289329,00.html

Man there are more than only one tank destroyed of coursed i am just leting you know what is written in other non american reports and these are mostly russian news outlets reports, the Russian media reports several american tanks destroyed and they offer you more than one picture of more than one tank.

They simply claim the Mi-24 was able to destroy some tanks, there is ample evidence of american and israeli tanks destroyed even AH-1 Cobra helicopters, The F-18 and F-16s also were reported by several non american media outlets and these reported that these aircraft were shot down, you might not agree with these and you might support the US version but see there are more than one version of the same event.

Yes, and also something else to consider. You love to post images of AH-64s wrecks in Iraq during 2003. Probably every single one of those have been used in Russian media and spun by Russian websites as being shot down. How many of those are simply accidents? Pilot error, brown out conditions, or mechanical failure?

How many of those Russian websites consider that fact? Why is everything on there either the result of an elite Republican Guard sniper or an elite Iraqi Hind team wreaking havoc amongst advancing Coalition forces? There wasn’t a single report of any Iraqi attack helos operating against Coalition forces during 2003. All of the Iraqi combat flying assets stayed firmly put and did not engage any Coalition forces. What you have is individuals simply spinning tales in similar fashion to the claims that they gave to Yugoslav MiG-29 pilots in Yugoslavia. Remember the tale of the made up Yugoslav pilot and his downing of an F-117?

I have no idea what really happened there. But I know damn well what did not happen.. The stories about big conspiracy of jihadists and kick-a$$ worldwide terrorist network might be sufficient for dumbed down american public but don’t even try to feed me with this BS.

Dude, the whole volume of the debris of Flight 93 in your link could easily fit into a small sedan. Is that a proof of something or what?

I am really not going to get involved in another stupid debate about 9/11. Nuff said..

But I know damn well what did not happen..

Yup, nuff said on here. Those actors must have been paid well? 🙂

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho…=66544&page=13

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho…=66544&page=14

More than with magical fall in surrounding countries or sea I think it has something to do with the peculiar nature of aircraft virtually vaporizing by excessive heat after the crash. There are at least two very well-documented cases that occured over the US territory back in 2001, albeit with civilian airliners. Nevertheless, similar fate could have met whole squadrons of shot-down Israeli F-15s 😉

I see that you are still a firm believer in the big 9/11 cover up?!

I take that you believe that every piece of debris and wreckage from Flight 93 and Flight 77 was planted by the U.S. authorities?

Flight 93 debris

http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/index.php?title=United_Airlines_Flight_93_debris

Flight 77 debris

http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/index.php?title=Pentagon_debris

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66544&page=13

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66544&page=14

While it is indeed hard to conceal a crash or a missing aircraft, it is still fairly possible to mask up kills as technical failures, or at least A-A kills as SAM or AAA. I find especially Israeli claims rather suspicious as they had strong motives to appear stronger and more capable than they really were to prevent possible attacks and undermine the morale of the enemy. Exaggerating successes and concealing losses seems a pretty logical way to achieve that.

And yet the Syrians can’t provide any wreckage to show those Israeli undisclosed losses? Kfadrat promised the forum such images from Syria/Lebanon but has failed to produce the goods. If the Syrians had the wreckage of an F-16 or F-15 from 1982, or any other undisclosed loss, then they would have rubbed the Israeli’s nose with footage.

When debating with those who believe in ‘undisclosed’ and ‘cover-ups’ it is always the same. The aircraft all magically fall to earth in surrounding friendly countries.