Иракское телевидение распространило кадры, снятые на месте, куда якобы рухнул сбитый утром в четверг (ФОТО. ВИДЕО) над южным районом Ирака американский истребитель F/A-18 Hornet. И выяснилось, что русскоязычному телезрителю эта съемка может сказать больше, чем иракцу или американцу.
Накануне Ирак объявил, что ему удалось сбить F/A-18, а через некоторое время, эту информацию подтвердили и в западной коалиции. По их версии, самолет сбит ракетой земля-воздух. И вот, Ирак показывает видео-подтверждение “своего успеха”.
На кадрах видно большое количество технологического хлама и обломков непонятных металлических конструкций. Вокруг – радующиеся люди с автоматами, вероятно – иракские ополченцы, сообщает телеканал ТВС. Но, при ближайшем рассмотрении, выясняется, что надпись на одном из обломков сделана на русском языке – “Резервуар для сжатого воздуха”. Также был показан другой обломок – с различимой надписью “При транспортировке за колпаки не браться”.
Всему этому, по мнению ТВС, можно найти два объяснения: либо эти кадры – не более чем агитационный клип, для съемок которого собрали множество старых разнородных обломков военной техники, либо – это обломки сделанной в России ракеты, которая собственно, и сбила американский истребитель. Последний вариант, похоже, более вероятен – эксперты говорят, что детали с русскими надписями очень похожи на элементы конструкции старой советской ракеты 3М-8, которой комплектовались зенитные комплексы “Круг”. Подобные машины стояли на вооружении иракских ПВО.
И последнее сообщение о сбитом Hornet, которое окончательно запутывает ситуацию – телеканал SkyTV сообщил со ссылкой на источники в Пентагоне, что американский истребитель был сбит ракетой, выпущенной из комплекса Patriot, стоящего на вооружении американских ПВО..
По данным британцев, крушение F-18 стало еще одним примером так называемого “дружественного огня”, от которого союзные войска понесли пятую часть потерь. Впрочем, сообщает ТВС, эту новость британский телеканал сопровождал все той же картинкой с обломками техники советского производства.
Американские военные по-прежнему отказываются сообщить подробности инцидента и уточнить место падения самолета. Неясно также, летел ли самолет на боевое задание, или возвращался после него. Сообщается, что пилот истребителя погиб.
Iraqi television has shown images at the the spot where the alleged F-18 wreckage stands. On Thursday morning (FOTO. VIDEO) over the southern region of Iraq an American fighter F/A-18 Hornet was shot down. And it turned out that the Russian-speaking viewers, can say more than the Iraqi or American public can about the subject.
Prior to this Iraq, announced that Iraq was able to shoot down F/A-18s, and after some time, confirmed this information to the media. In their version, an Iraqi surface to air missile shot down the F-18. Now, the Iraqies have shown video evidence of their success.”
At close it coud be seen many technological trash and incomprehensible fragments of metal constructions. Surrounding it by jubilant people with machine guns, probably, the Iraqi militia, it was reported by the TV channel TVS. But when making a close view of the wreckage , it appears that the inscription on one of the wreckage fragments was written in Russian – “The shell of compressed air.” Also shown was another piece of wreckage from the inscription reading in Russian “Transportation for the caps do not.”
All this, according to TVS, you can find two explanations: either those images are no more than a campaign clip, for the downing which gathered many disparate fragments of old military equipment, or the wreckage was of Russia missiles, which in fact, shot down an American F-18 fighter. The latter option seems more likely, experts say the debris with Russian inscriptions are very similar to parts of the old Soviet missiles 3 M-8, which formed the Iraqi air defense complexes. Such machines stood armed with Iraqi air defense.
The last reported downing of an F-18 Hornet was a confusing situation, SkyTV-TV channel reported with reference to sources in the Pentagon that the American fighter was shot down by a Patriot surface to air missile of the American air defense units.
According to the British, the downing of the F-18 was another example of so-called “friendly fire” which accounted one fifth of the western coallition losses. However, TVS reports, this news was broadcast by the British TV channel with all the same pictures of debris of the Soviet-made equipment.
The American military continues to refuse to announce details of the incident and clarify the place of the crash. It was also unclear whether the aircraft was flying at a combat mission, or returning after it. It was reported that the fighter pilot was killed.
Friendly Fire, a cover up or a Russian missile shooting down a F-18? a Patriot surface to air missile or a Russian surface to air missile?
source
http://www.newsru.com/world/03apr2003/iraq_tv.html
http://forums.airbase.ru/2003/05/07/topic-19811–Sbityj-F18.html
At the end buddy if Russia got an F-14 from what ever the source is something i am not sure but at least the Ministry of defence of the Soviet Union wrote a book about the F-14 interesting do not you think so?
So the U.S. authorities went to all this trouble just to deny an Iraqi SAM operator a kill?
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/12/11/human_error_cited_in_jet_hit_by_patriot/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040205-patriot-shootdown.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040205-patriot-accuracy.htm
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/02/08/a_finding_of_deadly_errors/
http://www.aviationtoday.com/pressreleases/8587.html
http://www.meridianmagazine.com/photoessay/030425soldier1.html
Lots of Iraqi SAMs went ballistic and simply fell back to earth along with their boosters. Bear in mind that the Iraqi’s staged in Baghdad a complete propaganda farce where they pretended to search for shot down allied crew members hiding in reeds in the Tigris. It was beamed live across the world as the crowds got larger. The Iraqis claimed they had captured a pilot and were searching for another in the reeds. The crowd dispersed happily thinking that what they had been told was factual.
Hmmm, bit of a discrepency here
http://www.liberty05.com/civilwar/civil87.html
‘October 16, 1986 During a raid against Palestinian positions, an Israeli F16 was shot in Saida. One of the two Israeli pilots was captured while Israel saved the second in a helicopter operation.’
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_278.shtml
‘Mortally injured, Lt. Lange died in the hands of Lebanese civilians and Syrian troops. Most likely his aircraft got hit because it was the last in the Intruder-formation and the only fully-loaded with bombs, which made it less capable to manoeuver and evade enemy fire. (SIGMA via Tom Cooper)’
Flogger,
Always double check your sources!
The image shows Lt. Mark “Doppler” Lange, not an Israeli pilot
From
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/project/YEAR_Pages/1983.htm
Flogger are you trying to link up that image to the story of the F-16 lost in Iraq?
Flogger check the tail. That is a Royal Danish Air Force F-16 that ran off the runway in Afghanistan.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=42368
The Russians would have to declare this nuclear capable cruise missile under treaty conditions. Treaty inspectors from both sides respectively still visit and inspect each others long-range nuclear assets.
They display munitions for initial technical exhibitions. The same would happen if say the US or Russia put a new heavy strategic bomber into service.
Photographs from the technical exhibition of AS-15s
If the missile has technically entered service then the Russians have to declare it and show it for an inspection.
See Flogger,
Always check your sources. The Russian news agency tried to pass off the image taken during 1999 for a claim in 2006.
Those images are widely available on the web.
The image is from one of the Apache crashes in Albania.
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