Ah, my mistake, i just had in the back of my head redaing somewhere about another F-117 being w/o during or after Kosovo war . Still, is it correct that previously an F-117 was rumoured/claimed damaged by birdstrike during that time ?:confused: Thanks.

Hi,
Apologies for the late reply. There was an F-117 on test and evaluation in the US that was reported in Air Forces Monthly as damaged on April 21st 1999.

April 21 An F-117A 86-0837/’OT’ of the USAF 422nd TES “suffered extensive damage in an unspecified landing accident, details unconfirmed, but reported as a Class A accident.” (source: Air Forces Monthly, August 1999, p. 74)

http://www.f-117a.com/Javaframe.html

Individuals and groups at the time tried to link it to a combat loss during Allied Force with the accident as a cover up. 86-0837 was in the US at the time. Images of 86-0837 post conflict.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=86-0837

TJ

So much for the ” oh it was just a birdstrike! ” Bloody dangerous bird those S-125s, eh ?:D .So would this second F-117 be the one that was w/o because of ” birdstrike “?

Every single F-117 that took part in Allied Force, bar obviously 82-806, was noted active after the conflict.

http://www.f-117a.com/Yugo.html

link from a few years ago, but should still be active. Many of the serials that took part will have more up to date images on the web.

The serials:

Aviano

80-0788 – Scramble on the web sighting March 2004
80-0791 – Scramble on the web sighting May 2002
81-10795 – http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=81-10795&distinct_entry=true
82-0800 – http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/mounta00.htm
82-0803 – Scramble on the web sighting June 2003
82-0805 – http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/tyndal03.htm
82-0806 – Shot down during Allied Force
83-0807 – Scramble on the web sighting October 2002 Imaged at NAS Whidbey Islan Aug 2002 http://www.airshowphotography.com/F-117/w02f117-830807-3.jpg
84-0828 – Scramble on the web sighting Seymour Johnson AFB October 1999.
85-0817 – Scramble on the web sighting Altus AFB September 2002
85-0820 – http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=271378
85-0833 – http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=85-0833&distinct_entry=true

Spangdahlem

80-0786 – http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=170738
81-0794 – http://www.rdavp.com/Reports/Andrews%202004/Andrews_Photo25.htm
82-0799 – http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/dayton02.htm
84-0809 – http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=84-0809&distinct_entry=true
84-0810 – http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2320
84-0824 – http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/langle00.htm
84-0826 – wright-patterson afb 2003 10 may
85-0818 – http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/barksd00.htm
85-0819 – Scramble on the web sighting June 2003
85-0832 – Scramble on the web sighting April 2004
86-0821 – Scramble on the web sighting October 2000
88-0842 – Scramble on the web sighting October 2003
88-0843 – Scramble on the web sighting August 2005

TJ

So the U.S Airforce museum steps up to support my claim. Wonder if any of you that tried to turn the debate into personal attacks on me, are ready to apologize.

Among others there are quite a few fanatics on this board. The gospel: “if it wasn’t invented here, it does not exist”

The story about the second aircraft, has been known to me and others for more than a decade. If you only start to believe this now, there is a strong reason why you should consider yourself a fanatic.

No it doesn’t. Go back and read your posts very carefully. Your claim is that the an image of a damaged F-117 was highlighted in the Norwegian media and then covered up. Nothing of the sort took place other than your vivid imagination. The image would still be in the archives in the library. Remember the image and story that you were too lazy to retrieve? Get yourself down the library and see what you can find? If you find nothing no doubt you will be coming back with claims of a cover up story?

You wrote

the story with the grainy photo, was on the front of every newspaper that day.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1707949&postcount=69

There were lots of dodgy images presented at that time. Le Figaro ran the story showing one of the Yugoslav MiG-29s in Bosnia as an F-117. This was already pointed out to you. Remember you are the one claiming that this image was of the actual event featured on every newspaper that day. It should be easy for you to find it in the library archives.

TJ

The way things appear to be going, Gaddafi isnt going anywhere and will be in charge of Libya for a long time to come, so who will he be buying airplanes from?

As long as Gaddafi is in power nobody is going to be selling him arms. The embargo will remain in place. Do you honestly think that the arms embargo is going to be reversed at the UN? Not a chance.

TJ

I think you underestimate your airforce as well as your politicians, by thinking that an internet interview will change their minds about a 10 bln $ purchase… I am sure IAF has better ways to learn about how an F16 does against Typhoon than an anonymous internet interview.

You misunderstand. I’m referring to fanboys creating web pages and articles for their own nationalistic purposes. If the Indians had gone down a Rafale purchase option then no doubt you would see on such websites an article of how Pakistani F-16 Pilots gave a lesson to Rafale Pilots? It is easy to do and just look at how it has taken off on all the ‘fanboy’ forums?

TJ