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Hey Wanshan, what’s my theory about what happend to “KURSK” ? You claimed you knew so I’m asking you to tell everyone AND me??

I think you should try reading my posts from before: I’ve already said the official story may very well not be true. But this doesn’t mean the story you came up with is true. There is plenty wrong with that too.

I’m not coming up with anything I’m reading what the author is stating what most probably happend, so answer me this scince the Nylon and Torpedo and the Tube doesn’t have burn marks who dod you explain that??

The reason the author was giving two theories of weapons than might have been used he wasn’t contradicting him self, second Vice-Premier Ilya Klebanov and Attorney-General V.Ustinov announced that the governmental commission for the investigation into the the accident of the Kursk had finished its work, and offered the public the results of its two-year labors. Their conclusion: The reason for the atomic sub’s demise was a torpedo fuel explosion occurring in the 4th torpedo tube, leading to a detonation of all warheads. O.K. the gov said they did experements and found out it was an accident, as we go further we’ll see out right contradictions in thier own Statements, (not because they made mistakes but because they “Tripped up in thier lies), Klebanov and Ustinov, said when the type 298 torpedo was already in torpedo tube no. 4, it began to leak hydrogen peroxide (H202) through a poorly-welded seam. That led first to a fire inside the torpedo tube and then to the explosion of the torpedo’s fuel, which caused the whole arsenal stored in the first section of the sub to explode.
Klebanov and Ustinov say that the hydrogen peroxide leaked and leaked, and then caught on fire. but, the investigation and experiments were conducted in accordance with the “list of experimental tasks” confirmed on 8 Sep. 2000 by deputy chairman of the governmental commission, Vice-Admiral Barskov. And here are the conclusions the experts came to:

“No aberrations from the norm were revealed during the check of weld-joints on the type 298A torpedo.” The same was confirmed by Academic Gorynin at one of the commission’s sessions.

What’s more, there are the results of experiments conducted by specialists from the Russian Applied Chemistry Scientific Center. And they show that “a fire in the torpedo tube can happen only in case of a slow leak of hydrogen peroxide, in the range of 200 grams per second.”

The thing is that a more powerful stream of H202 would simply extinguish the fire, and a weaker one would cause the flame to go out of its own accord: There’s enough oxygen in the torpedo tube to support combustion for only 1.5 seconds. And here it’s enough to remember your fifth-grade chemistry to know that a regular supply of oxidizer is needed to support flame in any enclosed space.

If Messrs. Ustinov and Klebanov really believe what they say at their press-conferences, then the following picture emerges, if we take into account the above-mentioned experiments: First, some disembodied spirit squeezed into the torpedo tube along with the torpedo loaded there. Then this same demon bored a little hole and let a few drops of peroxide leak out. After the fire began, that very same terrorist from the beyond widened the opening just enough to ensure 200g/sec. leakage, no more, no less, and in that manner kept the fire going. Nonsense, you say?

they say, a fire in the torpedo tube. But in the commission’s materials we find, written in black and white: “On the fragments of torpedo tube no. 4 raised from the ocean floor and the torpedo itself the paint is intact…”; “the nylon track inside torpedo tube no. 4 shows no signs of high temperature influence…”.

So there you have it: Inside the torpedo tube a fire is raging, if we’re to believe the report, but paint and nylon are intact. Though they ought to have burned up in the first moments of the blaze. Not nylon, but a veritable “burning bush” was located in torpedo tube no. 4! That’s really something: the torpedo is in shreds, the sub in pieces, but paint and nylon are like new.

By the way, experiments during the investigation also revealed that the the fuel in our torpedos is very stable and even in the presence of high temperatures can go for a long time without exploding. DO you see now when thier explanations are carefully examined, we find that Government’s own Experements and the actuall reports on the Torpeodo room of Kursk at the bottom of the ocean TOTALY contradict, Klebanov’s and Ustinov’s Statements, this is why I was saying “You guys need to RE-read the article carefully.

The Answer the Gov gave (H2020 LEAK) WAS NOT A HYPOTHISIS, it was a difinitive answer, and scince The laws of Science and Commun Scense dictates the Gov could’nt have known it was H202 leakage that cause the Kursk to explode, it’s logacal and correct to assume “COVER UP” for a VERY sinister reasons.

Well I must admit I haven’t read all the posts above in detail, but I don’t believe the collision theory.

The “Oscar II” was sunk by torpedo theory doesn’t hold much water either.
That circular hole makes no sense. Why would a torpedo hit a sub there? Torpedos would more likely hit the rear… engine room… where the noise is being made, for a passive homing torpedo, the centre of the sub for an active torpedo, or again the rear of the sub of a wakehoming torpedo.

Guys,

Lets have a small moment of common sense here.

You are assuming that in this day and age, a US submarine would willingly (torpedo) or unwillingly (ram) a Russian submarine, sinking it and creating one of the biggest naval-related media spectacles in decades, and nothing would leak?

That amongst a crew of more than 100 USN officers and sailors aboard, and the dozens more on shore that would have learned of it, not one of them has said anything?

That none of the civilian appointees who would have learned of it would use it for partisan political purposes?

That none of the civilian contractors who would have been involved in repairing damage sustained woudl say anything?

At all?

Ever?

I think not.

This is something out of a bad movie, not factual data worthy of the time and effort of the people on this board.

Lets go back to real intangibles (Is China refurbishing their ex-Russian carrier for service) rather than chasing conspiracy-theory smoke and mirrors.

Unicorn

If it did hit the nose of an Oscar II it would blow a hole in, which would let rather large amounts of water into the torpedo room… a room rapidly filling up with sea water is hardly the conditions you’d expect a fire to break out in… a hole that size at that depth would rapidly flood the torpedo room… how would a fire start in the first place? A shaped charge warhead starts fires in tanks but only because it is not followed into the tank by a huge torrent of water.

Your wrong and I now know why, 1. Your not reading the articles properly, the weapon used is a new hightech kind, and isn’t it funny how the article shows how back in 89 the U.S. Navy wanted a “NEW WEAPON” to counter of all things the “Soviet Subs”, and then isn’t it more funny how “Jane’s Fighting ships” 2000-2001 publications, shows some how some way the same U.S. Sub (MENPHIS) which happend to be near Kursk coensidently had been RE-fitted with NEW type or weapons. READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN: http://oag.ru/views/kursk2.html P.S. I’m not asking this question, I’m making a statement in a question format: How did the Rus Gov speciphically know the Peroxsid leaked in the Torpedo to cause the Explosion, the Torpedo room was completly destroyed, no sailor wrote any notes that it leaked, the explaination that the Gov gave, has NO basis what’s so ever AND litteraly just came out of thin air.

Wrong the remenants of the Torpedo room were part of the nose that was sawd off before the Kursk was raised, and a nice BIG 1 meter hole going into the Hull of Kursk can be seen, 1. “Why wasn’t any pictures of what was “left” of the Torpedo section shown to the public?” Answer= cuz it would MASSIVLY contradict the official versions, READ again Part 1. http://oag.ru/views/kursk1.html Part 2. http://oag.ru/views/kursk2.html

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