”The Princess Bride” by William Goldman. Made into a film of the same name, I love this book (I was a bit confused by the way it was written at first though), very funny, 10/10 🙂

”The Turn of the Tide” and ”Triumph in the West” by Arthur Bryant. Fascinating account of WW2 based on the war diaries of Field Marshal Viscount Alanbrooke whose role as chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee was pivotal to the allies victory. Excellent books, 10/10.

I have this problem too, it’s been happening since the last forum maintenance closure.

I have one more thing to say. It is easy to criticize someone for their actions, mostly if that person commits a mistake. Always try to put yourself in their shoes at the particular moment the so-called mistake was made and see if you would have come to the same actions. Like I said above, considering the circumstances, I believe I would have done exactly what these officers have done. Remember as well, that if this man would have been a suicide bomber and he had succeeded in detonating his explosives, many of you might have called the police officers responding incapable of filling out their functions!

Well put, it was a decision that had to be made in seconds and under great stress.

While i sadly think that accidents like this are bound to happen, some of the comments in this thread are very worrisome if you ask me: If in doubt, shoot first, as questions later.

This incident will definately be something for Scotland Yard to check thoroughly. A few more events like this and the original terrorists have achieved the social mayhem they long for.

I would say the terrorists have won a victory when people start suggesting that the Police are a threat to public safety and civil/human rights.

Oh and by the way, the Army has already been used to counter UK terrorists, the obvious example being Northern Ireland and there was the deployment of troops and armour to Heathrow airport.

That’s true, but they just backed up the Police to stop rioting and help patrol trouble spots. This was a great help to the Police, but the Army became the victims of snipers and bombs.

huh that still doesnt add up as i said those ampbhibious vessels have crew of 300 while carrier requires 5 times that much, and also those amphbious vessels dont really have any escorts assigned to them were as carrier needs them.

Invincible class complement: 685 crew nominal (actual: Illustrious 643; Invincible 670) plus 376 aircrew (without GR.7’s)

Ocean class complement: 283 plus 180 airgroup plus 480 military (803 at overload)

Albion class complement: 325 crew plus 305 military (710 at overload)

Looking at these figures I don’t think you would need 1,500 crew to run a modern 25,000t carrier and the Bay class ships don’t need individual escorts assigned to them if they operate in a task force. Complement info from http://navy-matters.beedall.com/