Hi All,
Just a quick question please, Could not all the new tech be added to current stock aircraft such as Super Hornet/Eurofighter/Rafael/Grippen or say the
announced future fighter programme between Germany and France ? I am thinking in terms of purchasers of the F-35 that have had to step back because of the cost or reduce initial orders ?

Geoff.

For what I Know Galileo i.e. the subsidiary of Leonardo for optical sensors is working on a pod based on EODAS concept : four sensor , to cover all lower horizon of the carrier.

Sure marc, so are the Rafale and Gripen which are a whopping 50 KCAS faster.

The ignorance never ceases to amaze me. Sure, the F-35 is CLAWS limited to 700 knots because of aerodynamics. Any other gems you want to share?

??????? For what I know the Gripen speed is set at mach 2 and the same Rafale is 1.8 like the F/A-18 (hardly a runner) that’s in every case more than 200km or +100 knots more in my book…
In percentage it means that even the previously slower fighter planes around has almost 10% more speed than our truly, all other have almost a 25%.
Now to spare the other members of this forum another show of your trademark chauvinism and lack of even a minimum of good manners, let me add that “flying brick” is intended as a ironic/sarcastic reply to another non 100% serious post of F-14 Tomcat as the use of an emoticons should have suggested you.

In case you still taking a fuss about it, let me explain better what the term was intended to mean: Tomcat said that putting over a F-35 a most powerful engine or a different intake would significatively increase its maximum speed at the point of reach the one of the F-16 (or any other plane around except the two listed above. And the Su-34 also).
To put it simply, I just think it is not possible to reach such a result short of such radical changes in the plane own aerodynamics to result absolutely not worth the effort.
While in the case of the other slow movers you can blame the bad T/W ratio or the presence of fixed intakes, both those just doesn’t apply to the F-35 as its excellent subsonic performance seem to suggest.
It has an excellent engine, a more than decent t/w ratio DSI intakes (i.e. still better than a fixed one) still is anyway limited to mach 1.6.
So what can be except a general aereodynamic shape that it’s not more efficient above a certain limit i.e. that would not allow if not a very slight increase of speed even in the case of a consistent increase of thrust or a more efficient air flow?

Now, if calling such an occurrence ” being a flying brick” is something going about political correctness, let’s just use another term: what about “aereodynamically challenged”?
In any case, just not look at it as an equivalent of calling the F-35 “a lemon ” or something like so, it’s just a critics of a single (and evident) shortcoming of a given design . not something intended to thrash it

Lean assembly means assembly line?

Not exactly “small”, the two RN ships have a bigger displacement than the Kusnetsov or the Liaoning.

And a way bigger one compared to the nuclear powered, CTOL carrier Charles De Gaulle , fully capable (when not broken) to operate Hawkeyes.

So according to him, you develop stealth planes, spending a lot of money and time and after it you cannot use it for fear of giving up secrets?

Certainly using it in fight with ISIS is somewhat questionable, but a scenario in which modern russian planes and SAM are present it’s just another situation.

F-22 is around there from 2005, it was about time to use it operatively.

Maybe something has been lost in translation, what I was doubtful about is not that Su-30, Su-34 would one day had a successor, what I doubt is that this successive plane would be based on Su-57 frame and not to another completely new one.
So no Su-57 family as there is actually a Flanker one.

Paralay, this that the Mig-41 has lost to a Sukhoi project is also absolutely new to me, have you something about it (evn a link to a russian site, as I use Yandex browser).

@Haavarla
I wanted to sa that a carrier version of the Su-57 is actually envisaged but no versions specifically aimed to be the 5th gen equivalent of Su-30, Su-34 and so on.