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    within a stones throw of numerous camp sites !

    Caernarfon airfield and museum are 35 miles miles north and Llanbedra is a mere 5 miles south. These could be used for initial removal. Both are right on the coast and there is a dock very close to Caernarfon airfield, Fort Belan.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #881515
    paul1867
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    and even if the display boards told them,

    At Lambeth they use post it notes not display boards. I never found the one for the Spit. Did you see it PanzerJohn?

    This is the label for the Merlin and that one was quite informative compared with others!

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233743&d=1417808507

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233742&d=1417808507

    paul1867
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    Hi Alan, Thanks for your input.

    Firstly we really do need to be very careful about when any photo was taken. The Metadata can tell you this but this can of course be changed but I see no reason why this would have been done.
    The photo accompanying the video on the Skyonix site has the following data, Date Created 04/12/2014 which is the date I downloaded it. however the DATE TAKEN is recoded as 31/10/2012. An image downloaded from Mr. Mearman’s web site HAS THE SAME Metadate DATE TAKEN 31/10/2012. From this I suggest it is reasonable to assume that all these pictures were taken some years ago. The publication date of reports and photos does not necessarily have any relation to when the photos were actually taken. The photos on Flickr seem to only show the uploaded date.

    I take your point regarding the tide on December the 2nd and some tides in August but as I said I have carefully studied all the photos available and in my opinion we located the likely location. We were on the beach at the lowest tide point and surveyed the whole beach and the waterline. A further sandbank was visible a short way off from the water line and no doubt that would be uncovered if the tide had been lower. This is not reflected in our pictures, which were taken later in the afternoon, as there was nothing to take pictures of at low tide. I appreciate that this was not your point but that the tide was lower when you were there in August.

    Could you let me know the dates you were there please.

    I am reluctant to discuss an accurate location although personally I think that that ship sailed long ago.

    What do other forumites think, discuss location or not? I would only use existing pictures in the public domain to illustrate why I feel the aeroplane has been reburied.

    The point is there is now no aeroplane to be picked by scavengers.

    Paul

    in reply to: Gatwick Aviation Museum #882534
    paul1867
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    Many congratulations with the planning permission you have been struggling to obtain for so long. Clearly this must be a great step forward and I wish you ever success in the future.
    You were on my list of places to visit but sadly I did not achieve this before the other shack went.

    paul1867
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    Thanks for that Mike adds interest.

    I am right in understanding that the outboard pylon pods are for refuelling? When researching which mark it was I noticed pictures with and without these pods were both referred to as an MC130H, is there no further letter for the tanker version or is it just thought of as optional kit?

    paul1867
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    All joking apart

    On Tuesday last we did indeed visit Harlech beach with the intention of making a photographic record of the airframe.
    We spent several hours searching the whole beach and were very confident that we found the exact location as depicted.

    I am very pleased to report that no sign of the P38 was visible! This is what made me question the date of the latest pictures.

    So this means that either

    1) TIGHAR has come along and actually rescued something. Oink.
    2) The RAF have had a change of heart and recovered it.
    3) The scavengers have removed every last bit.
    4) The sea and the sand have reclaimed her.

    My view is that the severe storms that have been so characteristic over the last few years and which original uncovered her have now reclaimed her.

    Although a disappointing trip photographicly for me I am very pleased that the airframe is now buried and out of sight of the scavengers and is not deteriorating so fast.

    The wind speed was said to be a moderate 14mph and you can see the sand blowing across the surface.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233706&d=1417697842

    The day was not completely uneventful as we were buzzed by a KC130? Which was at 200ft of course!

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233701&d=1417697629

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233702&d=1417697827

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233704&d=1417697827

    Looks like crew in the back enjoying the view. Sorry the quality of the pictures is so poor.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233703&d=1417697827

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233705&d=1417697827

    I would be grateful if someone would confirm the exact type of this aeroplane please.

    As I was typing this a C130 flew down the valley level with my window. Only one they are usually in pairs.

    Support low flying practice. Our men need to train. It’s a very small price for us to pay IMHO.

    in reply to: P38 On Welsh Beach – So-called, by a few "Maid Of Harlech" #882856
    paul1867
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    Thinking that the pictures on the link to a website recently posted were taken this year I thought it was time I visited the site as I only live about an hour away. The intention was to make a full photographic record of the condition of the wreck.
    So last Tuesday we visited the beach which we had to ourselves.

    The aeroplane was almost completely uncovered lying in a shallow pool of water.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233685&d=1417691111

    I am very pleased to report that, with some help from my wife, I was able to recover the entire airframe.

    Bearing in mind the need to prevent fizzing of the aluminium I immediately started treatment.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233684&d=1417691111

    I did squeeze all the lemons as suggested but I wonder now if I should have peeled them first.

    in reply to: Blenheim airborne at Duxford #883409
    paul1867
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    She looks good thanks for posting.

    in reply to: Blenheim airborne at Duxford #883745
    paul1867
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    Hi Strata sorry o lunch just seen your comment. Hmm it obviously works ok for me, is anybody else having trouble?
    Can only suggest accessing it by sear hung within Facebook for the Blenheim Society group and hopefully get in that way. Cannot say I get on very well with Facebook so do not fully understand how to navigate it.
    Paul

    in reply to: Blenheim airborne at Duxford #883749
    paul1867
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    Yes please very interested. Please post a link. Thanks.

    paul1867
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    Just found a finely detailed set of images of the P38 taken in June 2014 from a drone/UAV
    http://joseph.mearman.co.uk/

    Help me out here please. Do you know that these images were taken on that date or is that the date from the website of the publication? Thanks

    May have my own answer as I have downloaded one of the photos and it has a date tag of 10/2012!!

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #884634
    paul1867
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    I wasn’t impressed either but will post in http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?132253-Imperial-War-Museum-Lambeth&highlight=lambeth shortly, before this drifts any further.
    IIRC there is also a thread on hanging, or not.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #884799
    paul1867
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    Think it would look better with the prop spinning….

    funny you should say that I thought the same thing together with a surround sound system playing a recording of a merlin fly past☺

    (Waits for the thread prefect to arrive to moan about the thread drift….)

    And quite rightly so!!

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #886057
    paul1867
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    To hang or not to hang?
    The very important point has already been made that this does enable more aeroplane to be under cover also it does allow the aeroplane to be viewed from different viewpoints provided suitable viewing gantries are provided. If the aeroplane is unique then maybe it should be close up and personal on the ground but if several of the same type are available, albeit at different locations, then surely it makes sense to have the opportunity to see one example “flying”. Duxford Airspace has a viewing gallery which works fairly well. From my point of view Cosford’s Cold War’s only virtue is under cover otherwise most definitely not for me.

    Duxford Airspace from gallery
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233622&d=1417469383
    Spot the misplaced part.

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233623&d=1417469593

    There was much debate about the Spitfire being rehung at Lambeth but I have to say it works quite well as the aeroplane can be viewed from all sides from underneath, level with and above as the floors and staircase provide viewing points over the atrium. Clearly there are many more Spitfires and this is not an aeroplane museum.

    IWM LAMBETH from various viewing points
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233616&d=1417461138

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233615&d=1417461115

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233617&d=1417461163

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=233619&d=1417461475

    The aeroplane building at the Manchester Museum of Science & Industry has a viewing gallery which works well.

    As ever we each have our preferences but where possible a mixture of both is good.

    I wonder if viewing galleries would be good idea at other museums for both indoor and outdoor exhibits.

    SimonR says it all having the hung aeroplane as complete as possible is the best way of keeping it together.
    In another 50 years it may well be flying!!!

    in reply to: Blenheim airborne at Duxford #892399
    paul1867
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    When it comes to pictures we are blessed with fellow forumites who not only give their time but also choose to share their professional standard work with us on an almost daily basis. I, along with many others I am sure, are most grateful and very appreciative of their contributions. Cannot recall the phrase I am looking for but something like “quality is worth waiting for.”

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