From Arms-tass – in Russian
Waitaminit, isn’t that the drawing made by Matej? Or is it Paralay? I forget who. Who’s the guy who’s always making those russian drawings…?
EDIT: Yep, definitely paralay.
Amazing what a simple ASEA radar will do to an aircraft’s capabilities. That was the gist of the Block 2 upgrade, right?
To be produced by 2009… I’m guessing “G5” is a new name for the PAK FA. Perhaps it’s a local Brazilian designation?
though there are still some errors.
D’oh!
😀 Well anyways, your list cleared up everything. Thanks. Well, actually, now I have more questions. 😮 I know, I know, I’m sorry for abusing you guys! This is the (probably) last question then I’ll shut up. 😉
So would you say that the original 9.15 Mig-29M and 9.31 Mig-29K have avionics comparable to, say, an FA-18C?
EDIT: I just read that the indian Mig-29K has avionics and radar comparable to the Su-30MKI! Wow!!
Correct. Keldysh just generates a form of plasma. There is nothing for an HOJ seeker to, well, “seek” 😀
Which brings up another question of mine. Wouldn’t the heat of that plasma present a BETTER target for an infrared missile? Something of an interesting trade-off I think.
Wasn’t Chengdu pumping out new J-7s as late as 2005 or so?
^^ Makes me wonder alluvasudden, what do pylons and fuel tanks cost? Seems like a bit of waste now that I think about it. Makes sense militarily, but I’m sure some taxpayer somewhere will see reason to throw a fit…
And wouldn’t the exposed fairing on the wings for the pylons to connect on to diminish RCS a bit in that case?
Aright… I think I can make sense of it now. 😮
– The original fulcrums were the basic Mig-29, along with some of it’s upgrades like the Mig-29S.
– The next major step was the multirole Mig-29M variant, featuring an improved airframe and all the giblets. The original Mig-29K (9.12 I believe) was based off this. It was also to be named Mig-33.
– This did not go into production, so Mikoyan developed the Mig-29SMT, which was an upgrade of stock fulcrums with many of the systems of the M, without the airframe modifications.
– Then, MiG unveils the newer M1 and M2 variants which are a new step above the original M, and base a new Mig-29K variant off this one which would be purchased by the Indian Navy.
– MiG makes the thrust-vectoring testbed Mig-29OVT, based off the original M, NOT the M2? :confused:
– And now, MiG is now selling the Mig-35 which is an advanced M2 and should feature more improvements and ASEA, presuming it goes into production. (Poor-man’s F-35 maybe?)
– And then there were a fair share of indigenous upgrades and NATO-compatability fittings here and there.
Family Tree
– Mig-29 (Mig-29S and other minor variants offshoot here, along with indigenous upgrades)
– Mig-29M (Original Mig-29K, Mig-29SMT and Mig-29OVT offshoots here)
– Mig-29M1/M2 (New Indian Mig-29K comes from this)
– Mig-35 (The future? Or a dud?)
My head hurts, but I’m glad I (think I) figured it out. Again this forum proves to be a reliable fountain of knowledge. Thank ye kindly!
So the Mig-29M1/M2 is an upgrade of the original Mig-29M?
Off topic, but jar my brain here; what does EO stand for again? Electro-Optical or something?
I don’t see why it matters, it’s not like more than one MFI will ever be built anyway.
I knooooow, but, but… still…
I mean, come on, Flatpack? I honestly can’t think of a sillier name. Well, other than “Foreskin” or something… :diablo:
Great reply, SOC! But isnt “Keldysh” supposed to be the name for that plasma stealth stuff? Is that what you’re referring to.
So MiG 1.44 = MFI = Flatpack.
*groan*
Did they HAVE to go with something that silly? You can fear a “Flanker” and you can respect a “Fulcrum”; how the hell are you supposed to admire something that conjures up images of oak furniture!? Fear the Flying Couch! Hardly fitting for the venerable Raptor’s opposite. *smacks forehead*
Was the JH-7 “Flounder” bit ever made official? I’ve never seen any article or publication declaring it the official ASCC name. It just seemed to pop up on the internet from nowhere…
And, uh, are they planning to give one to the J-10 any time soon? Do they even give names anymore???
^^ Damn straight that was a good analysis! Thanks, everyone.
Thanks Garry, just the info I was looking for.
Would the R-73 eventually replace the infrared R-27 by any chance since their effective range and usage (from what I gander) is pretty similar? I figure, the R-77 (and R-33) could handle long-range work while the R-73 can cover the other bases not unlike the AIM-9/AIM-120 combo the US Forces use. Does the RuAF still have the infrared R-27 in service? Is the arrangement still viable now with more modern and effective missiles now in service?