INDO-FRENCH EXERCISE VARUNA 07 OFF DJIBOUTI DURING WEST ASIA DEPLOYMENT
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Within the framework of their bilateral relations, both Indian and the French Navy are taking part in “Varuna 07”, a sea and air military exercise that commenced on 11 Sep 07 offshore Somali coast and in the Gulf of Aden. Aiming at increasing the two navies’ interoperability, it plans various maneuvers such as the visiting of ships by airborne and seaborne means, commando projection and air to surface exercise as well as a maritime patrol the in the abovementioned maritime zones.
The exercise will terminate on 19 Sep 07. The French contribution in the forthcoming exercise comes from the Djibouti based units (six Mirage 2000 and two Pumas helicopters) as well as from those placed under Alindien’s (the Admiral commanding the Indian Ocean maritime zone) command; a maritime patrol aircraft, a corvette (“Commandant Blaison”) and the “La Motte Picquet” frigate, which spearheaded the conduct of exercise from the French side. The Indian Navy participated through the destroyer “Rajput”, guided missile frigate “Beas”, supply ship – the “Jyoti” – two helicopters as well as several commando units.
“Varuna 07″ is a continuation of the yearly-organized exercise, such as Varuna 06” held in March and April 2006 offshore the Indian state of Goa. The French contribution was then centered on the aircraft carrier group “Charles de Gaulle”. It is also consistent with the Garuda biennial exercises (carried out last February, “Garuda III” associated Indian and French Air Force squadrons).India and France have been establishing a solid and ever –strengthening partnership that has been formalised since the Indian Prime Minister and French President signed a comprehensive defence agreement between the two countries in 2006. “Varuna 07” is as such very much significant of this common will to develop and strengthen an ambitious co-operation between the two countries.
VG/AK
IA,IN,IAF exercising like crazy….:eek: ..as if they are preparing for something..what?:diablo:
No reasoning/logic etc .. but just a gut feel that LM might floor everyone with F-35 being offered .. and the USG might also pitch in for it.. :confused: Boeing might get a bigger playing field in the commercial sector as well as other strategic areas..
F-35..incase we buy F-16s now.I am pretty much sure that IAF wont go for any F-16s.
I think it will be like this:
IAF prevails:Rafale/Typhoon/Shornet
Political monkeys prevail:Shornet/Mig-35
India Aircraft Tech Proposal May Be Hard To Enforce, Ministry Says
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHINEW DELHI — India wants technology transfer from whomever it picks to supply its 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA), but Defence Ministry sources say it will be tough to enforce that provision, especially if a U.S. aircraft is picked.
In its request for proposals in the estimated $10 billion program, ministry officials required that all but 18 of the aircraft be at least partially manufactured in India, with licensed production of the engines, avionics, radar, equipment, tooling, and various systems and accessories. The foreign plane maker will be required to assist Indian firms so that manufacturing can begin within 48 months of signing a contract.
It also requires that Indian partners handle depot-level maintenance and support for the aircraft and associated equipment.
Some say negotiating such a large amount of technology transfer could delay the program up to four years.
Ministry sources said transferring technology will be easier for Russian and European firms, which are more familiar with Indian procurement procedures, than for American companies, which will find it difficult to negotiate without involving the U.S. government.
“India’s considered political stand on some geopolitical issues as Iran is likely to create some challenges, so it may entail a delay,” said defense analyst Rahul Bhonsle, a retired Indian Army brigadier.
Several foreign vendors said they had begun looking for Indian firms to work with on bids for the contract.
“Boeing really doesn’t look at [offsets] as obligations, but as long-term opportunities to bring win-win business and industrial benefits to India and to Boeing,” said Vivek Lall, who runs Integrated Defense Systems-Boeing India, voicing the same kind of sentiment publicly expressed by EADS and Lockheed Martin, as well.
But privately, several said they doubted the firms were ready for the kind of multibillion-dollar, high-tech infusion the government is seeking. Hindustan Aeronautics has been designated the lead production agency for the airframe, engine and assembly, with production of other systems to be given to private or state-owned firms.
They also voiced displeasure with the recent increase in offset requirement from 30 percent to 50 percent. Defence Ministry sources also said the cumbersome offset laws would delay progress by more than 20 months.
All told, it could take 10 years to settle the procurement details in this contract, India’s biggest since independence, and another four or five to begin production.
“The obstacles, especially the political obstacles, will vary widely depending on who lands the deal,” said Dhruva Jaishankar, South Asia analyst at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
“The Russians are the status quo military supplier to India, so a decision to buy MiGs will produce no backlash from the political establishment. After the purchase of Mirages and Scorpene subs by India, the French have also proved politically uncontroversial, and the expectation is that other European manufacturers in competition — the Eurofighter consortium and Saab — will prove generally agreeable.
A political backlash may follow a decision to buy American — either the Super Hornet or the F-16, especially if the decision comes soon upon the heels of the Indo-U.S. nuclear agreement.”
Deba Mohanty, defense analyst with the New Delhi-based Observer Research Foundation, said strategic considerations likely would dictate the decision.
“It does not seem to me that the government will find difficulties in selection on technological grounds, as all of the systems in question meet almost all operational requirements,” Mohanty said. “The technical and commercial evaluation may not necessarily be a hindrance, although the former could cause some anxiety on a variety of grounds.” •
Making way for American buy?Or Russian…?;)
£61.5 mn each, or 88.4 mn Euros or $122.8mn.
So Shornets/Rafale it is.
…expect to see a Russian ‘copy’ appear within weeks… :diablo:
Flamebait…:rolleyes:
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I think the people who bid are from Kevin Costner’s Waterworld😀
Forrestal and Saratoga

Obi Wan Russell…when was those pictures taken because..google earth shows only 3 carriers.Whats the 4th [on the extreme right]?
The three are..Independence,constellation ranger[from left]

While it would be interesting seeing MIG-29s and perhaps Su-33s operating off her……I dont put too much stock in this report……
Just for imagination purposes…I think it would be cool to have 60 odd Mig-29Ks + NLCAs operating from the kitty and F-35s from the STOBARs..
That day we will bow to Scooter for having prophesised it loooong back..:eek: :diablo:
P.S. Just kidding..no offence mate…
Also check what the USN guy says…
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/48300/mighty-us-warship-retires-after-india-mission.html
Your right, Afghanistan would be a better analogy.
Yeah you are correct.I was going generally by the no. of casualty figures in the news everyday..compares well with Iraq.Like today..
Suicide blast at commando base : 15 soldiers killed, 18 injured
Karachi bus attack claims seven lives
etc.
Wrong again with your figures. Atleast check what you report even if it has nothing to do with this thread or topic.
Funny really,because I was earlier correct regarding the health figures…
India total expenditure on health:5% of GDP[2004]
Pakistan———-same——–:2.2% of GDP[2004]
http://www.who.int/countries/pak/en/
http://www.who.int/countries/ind/en/
Defence:
India:2.5 % of GDP[2006]
Pakistan:3.2 % of GDP[2006]
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html
The significance is the same.All other figures are correct.Including transparency International’s corruption rankings…
http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2006
The defence spending figures as a percentage of total annual budget are there..will look into it when I have time.
wrong figures
Military expenditures – percent of GDP:
3.2% (2006; 3% 2007 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html
yet to check other super figure given by u
Yup correct.
Correction would probably be this:
Pakistan defence budget:12% of its budget
Pakistan expenditure on health:2.6% of its budget
Indian defence spending:2.5% of its budget
Indian expenditure on health:5% of its budget
Will correct later.All the other data are however correct.Check and report if wrong.
Pakistan is resembling Iraq more and more these days..:(