India testfire Brahmos from landbased launcher
The test was conducted at 11.21 am from a mobile launcher — an indigenously built Tatra truck. The launch was successful and an evaluation of the mission would be made after analysing data.
Well, we’ve got the problem that the vector of the AASM must be clearly in the range of the S-300 missiles, but on the other hand, destroying an AASM with a S-300 is clearly an overkill.
I was thinkin what Sealord said;)
The Rafale will be in the range of the S-300 far earlier than it is within the launching range of the AASM.
ASMP is probably very good indeed for SEAD, but using it might have undesirable repercussions. :diablo:
He he,then they should name it as the NARM or Nuclear Antiradiation Missile.:D
But Scalp is an expensive long range missile with a warhead which is gross overkill for a radar. It’s meant for high value, hardened, defended targets. No, I reckon Scorpion is probably right. AASM will be the weapon (or rather, weapon system) of choice for most elements of an enemy AD system, with range extension kit, where appropriate, & whichever combination of bomb & seeker is thought best for the selected target. Plus Scalps for command bunkers deep inside enemy territory, & the like.
France has ordered thousands of AASM kits, but only bought hundreds of Scalps.
Yeah…you guys are probably correct.And glitter thanks for the link.AASM looks like a nice low cost option.Only concern I had was of the range which is 50km max from high alt.Can it take out a long range radar-SAM complex say the S-300 or any other long ranged SAM?
With the Rafale planned to replace the Jaguars, Mirages, and Etendards, and the AS.37 getting a bit long in the tooth, what is on hand to replace it? I would assume it would be a Rafale, but with what weapons?
Thanks!
Kurt
Most probably the Scalp will be used for that purpose.
Because of high cost of developing and maintaining several types of missiles,I think path taken is to develop a single highly effective delivery platform with different warheads and seekers to suit mission profiles.Also UAVs are a effective solution for DEAD.
I wish the India poclitic had the guts to stick its fingers up at the US sometimes, i find it rather cheeky of something like this being mooted by the US even while their are people of Indian Origin in jail in the US for buying technology they are ready and willing to sell to our greatest rival.
I hope congress wakes up some day.
I wonder whether India-US thing is ever going to happen.First sanctions,then supply amraams and F-16s and what not to Pak,then this i960 thing.Something or the other keeps on happening.Infact sometimes it appears that it is astonishing that people(both in India and US) expect Indo-US thing to happen!
For me if it happens good,but if US thinks that India have to be a poodle,then lets just forget it.
Hi!
I found in the web some interesting artistic images of a «supposed» Mig-39…
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That looks quite nice…and similar to the MFI or a stealthy variant of Gripen:D .
Vikrant at war,
Excellent find Harry.Some excellent footage of the Seahawks.Oh how I miss a CATOBAR carrier!:(
Pvt sector must build shipyards: Navy chief
[ 18 Apr, 2007 1342hrs ISTPTI ]
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NEW DELHI: Aiming to make the Indian Navy a “builder’s navy” through indigenisation, its chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta has sought initiatives by the private sector to construct shipyards and other facilities to enhance domestic shipbuilding capabilities.
“In so far as the navy is concerned, it is an issue that we are pushing extensively. It is not merely warship-building that needs acceleration, but shipbuilding as a whole,” he said.
“Private sector initiatives in terms of greenfield shipyards, as also by way of capacity enhancements in PSU yards, needs to be strongly encouraged and the navy is actively engaged in the facilitation of these processes.”
As many as 32 ships and six submarines are currently being built in shipyards across the country and “the commitment of the Indian Navy to indigenous construction is obvious”, he said in an interview to Indian Defence Review to be carried in the premier journal’s forthcoming issue.
Asked how the navy will participate in the nuclear triad and what kind of platforms could be required for this, Mehta said his force was the “stated third leg” of the triad and “submarines are the obvious option”.
But the class or classes of submarine that will be selected and inducted has not yet been decided upon.
“Obviously, we would need to carefully consider every available option and its overall ramifications. This process of careful consideration will continue until the final choice is made by the government,” Mehta said.
US seeks more liberal access for warships
NEW DELHI, APR 18 (PTI)
United States has sought more “liberal access” for its warships to Indian Naval bases and facilities.
The proposal figured prominently in talks between the visiting US Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Michael G Mullen and top Indian Naval brass.
“We have mooted for more free access for our warships and warplanes” Mullen told newsmen after his meeting with his Indian counterpart Admiral Suressh Mehta. At present, US warships are cleared for entry into Indian ports on case by case basis.
“The proposal which would be on reciprocal basis is still under dialogue”, he said.
Mullen said US was desirous of expanding cooperation with Indian Navy on equipment supply also along with holding of joint exercises and exchange of personnel.
“We are interested in selling our Naval fighters, equipment, radars and other systems to India”, he said adding that he visualised in near future the two countries also collaborating on building of future aircraft carriers for the Indian Navy.
He said that the two navies had graduated to put in place cross postings of personnel besides sending officers to each others staff colleges. “We have already started training Indian Naval fighter pilots and a batch of 32 pilots is about to finish their course at US war training colleges.
Asked if the US had also proposed attaching Indian Naval warships to its flotilla on crucial visit and war games abroad, Mullen said the idea had not come up for discussion.
US Navy attaches warships from its close allies in deployments overseas.
Stating that the two navies had reached “comfort level” in a series of joint exercises held so far, Mullen said in recent trilateral US, India and Japan in the Pacific Ocean many new concepts of operating together had been validated.
He said in his discussions today at South Block one of the Main issues that had figured was to boost cooperation in equipment supply. In this connection, he said Indian Navy would receive the US ship landing vessel Trenton by May 26.
Mullen would call on the Defence Minister A K Antony tomorrow and also hold discussions with Army Chief J J Singh, Air Chief Fali H Major and Defence Secretary Shekar Dutt.
Welcoming India’s growing peace initiatives with China, Mullen when asked about reports of Chinese buildup said Washington had opposition to China’s national interest oriented military growth.
However, he said Beijing needed to be transparent about its strategic intent. “We have noticed recent moves by China to shift focus from ground forces to building up its air and Naval capability. In developing strategic weapons Beijing needs to be more transparent in intent”.
Second prototype of Saras aircraft makes maiden flight
BANGALORE, APR 18 (PTI)
The second prototype of Saras, the indigenous 14-seater multi-role light transport aircraft, made its successful maiden flight here today.
Saras, India’s first indigenous civil aircraft, is being developed by the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) here, a constituent unit of the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR).
Wing Cdr R S Makker was the chief test pilot for today’s flight. He was joined by Wing Cdr A Malik as the co-pilot and Wing Cdr M S Ramamohan as the flight engineer. All the personnel belong to the Aircraft Systems and Testing Establishment (ASTE) of the IAF, which is the flight testing organisation for Saras, an NAL statement said.
The first prototype of Saras made imaiden flight on May 29, 2004 and its formal inaugural flight on August 22 the same year. The first prototype has so far completed 106 flights.
NAL saiseveral improvements had been made in the second prototype, the most important ones being the incorporation of two higher power engines — PT 6A-67A with 1,200 horsepower each in place of the PT6A-66 of 850 HP each used in the first prototype — and new propellers of larger diameter.
The improvements, it said, had brought the second prototype much closer to the final production standard aircraft.A weight optimisation programme was also taken up with a target to reduce the aircraft’s weight by 500 kg, the statement said. Another prototype will be built to the final production standard and proved through a combination of ground and flight tests.
I had this on my HD.The PAKFA looks cool in this picture.:)

EL2052 + Mig35 will win (most of) the deal. we can also expect a mixed order of refurbished M2K(Qatari) and perhaps 40 Rafale to keep the french pacified and streams of technology flowing smoothly.
Wise..as always!:)
Those bamboo shoots must really be rich in vitamins and wisdom!:D
with the nuclear deal also showing signs of going down the drain, and with the i960 chip arrests, the American maker’s chances are getting slimmer by the day..its the Europeans and Russians who are the only real competitors now..Considering that the people being tried claim to have acted on behalf of the GoI, if any prosecution occurs, ties will surely be soured between the US and India.
“According to the prosecution, Sudarshan had told the FBI in a statement of March 23, 2007: “I acted as an agent of the Government of India, although I was not a paid intelligence officer”.”
Yeah,Boeing and LM surely look to be down the drain!
Dammit you are enjoying this far too much. :diablo: But i’ll take the bait. Don’t tell me theyre waiting for an EL 2052 to materialize on the F18 e/f:eek: After that i960 chip scandal, doubt it if the US is going to get any piece of the pie. Look at the army chopper deal, sudden change from bell to eurocopter. But this GOI is surely cozing up to the Americans so you never know.
The Eurobirds are expected to get their respective AESAs operational only around 2012, so it better not be that the MRCA deal is waiting that long 😡 unless of course, they too opt for the EL 2052 for the Indian versions (highly unlikely since the euros, esp. France is most reluctant to bring about crazy multivendor modifications to their a/c)
Nope, my take is that the Russians benefit the most by delaying the deal…look how far they have brought the MiG 29 just for the MRCA deal in the last 2 years (from payload/range increases, 3D TVC, to fancy sensors, active jammers and even AESA), I wouldn’t be surprised if they suddenly pitched a MiG 35, which looks just like the 1.42. with AL 31FPs :dev2:Ultimately, price will be a major factor. If its truly upwards of a $ 10 bln deal, the Americans or Euros will get it (cause only they are that expensive). If its around $ 5-6 billion, the Russians will bag it cause the others simply can’t afford to sell 126 of their super duper gizmoshizmo aircraft that cheap.
Regards,
USS.
Ummm…good post but do we really want to start another MRCA discussion?Havent we discussed it all already countless times;) ?Notwithstanding the variety of information trickling down the grapevine,just know that whatever happens, happens for good…at least that is what I think.:diablo: