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  • in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2352451
    emile
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    People have already estimated the size of the J-20 using a support truck parked next to it. Its size is about 20 meters long. How did you estimate the J-20’s size? I hope it’s not based on superimposing images of two planes that share 0 common parts, because you can easily do that with any two planes.

    If you don’t mind I will come to tell you why esitmating size via that truck is unaccurate and that will be massive deviasion.
    First, perspective angle to be considered is impossible, not even estimate it.
    2nd, included angle generated by truck and that aircraft was not considered, not even estimated also.
    These two angles are being there certainly and if the error caused by those go to conversly direction, then we get lucky, but if the directions they went to are same, the the deviasion will be tremendously huge.
    Naturely, the deviasion could be middle between to extrems of them, so the 20 looked is not an unbelievable data, but with nothing fixed.

    However, as one can see, what I done is set limit from two sides, and to eliminate those impossible region, then we get a reckonable interval.
    The diameter of engine which amounted on J-20 larger than D30F formed impossible region at right side, and left quadrant is limited between zero to the diameter of engine which MiG-29, JAS-39 alike equiped.

    It is not hard to find an upview photo of Gripen to coincide with same angled MiG-31. If you compress that J-20 pic ratio equalled to Gripen or Rafale, what a funny it will be?
    Besides, there is a photo showed a group of people stand around J-20 in which focul point is that main wheel with several people aside so we can see excatly the height of that wheel really is almost taller than a man’s hip, same at least. It is a huge jetfighter since Tu-128 and Yak-250.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2353896
    emile
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    Hotdog:
    Are you able to estimate the size of J-20?
    By my oppnion, its 22 meters long at least and wing span is approxi to 15 metters, about 5 meters for height, empty weight is 20 tons more or less.
    If my estimate is not more accurate than yours, I will abandon my Emile ID and will never come back.
    What if you lose? Changing your prefix to J-30?

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2354523
    emile
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    anyone can resize the J-20 to fit the size of another fighter. I can resize the J-20 so it looks closer to the Gripen’s size.

    you need something in common to base the size on.
    i.e. Pak-fa vs Flanker comparisons are done using the front tires as a reference point.

    Notice your missiles are supposed to be carried internally and your nozzle shouldn’t be a water needle alike, my baby……!

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2355006
    emile
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    enlighten me, how is the layout OBVIOUSLY unreasonable?

    The main function of foreplane on FWS layout usually is to wash out the boundary layer generated from the intersection of FSW and BSW.
    The horizontal stabilizer enhedraled will recieve the washing stream come from both of foreplane and LERX (which I cannot see it clearly but assumed being there condignly), thus leading to a stabilizer to be an un-stabilizer.
    The conclusion is this fantasy drawing was not released from any aviation intelligence but some one being wet dream under daylight.

    You’d better to know that HongDu aviation bureau has no capability to research such program complicated as 4th generation fighter.
    If you are not a Chinese, I won’t post so much……..

    BTW, contribute a picture for you http://i51.tinypic.com/2ccxovm.jpg

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2355103
    emile
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    guys, i found some interesting stuff:
    a new stealth jet concept design, submitted by Hongdu Aviation Industry (Group) Corporation, China

    Don’t post too many wet dream here, the layout obviously is unreasonable if you learned some aerodynamics.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2360621
    emile
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    Ohh I see, I see what do you mean.
    its little bit different from my point.
    but its also relied much on the level position of canard not merely related to couple-distance.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2360691
    emile
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    To benhongh:
    Even with long-coupled canards, the wing recieved washing from canards still strongly, enough to promote lift. You can see it by a pic of wind-tunnel testing of EAP which uploaded many times in this forum.
    The layout of VLT, the J-20 used is pretty unusual.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2360718
    emile
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    f 16.net has a lot of former pilots and people in the know. That site is closely monitoered by the U.S authorities for potential leak of classified data as well. Hence to dismiss every user there as a fanboy is ludicrous.

    Former pilot? No, it is a forum in which gathered many playboys who put F-16 and F-22 in blind faith from China without extensive knowledge of aircraft.

    On the other hand, there is a “half yuan party” who employeed by Beijing GOV as propagandist in order to earn half Yuan per post without knowing exactly what is the lift body said by Song Wencong’s thesis.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2360783
    emile
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    I deem there is a litle difference between enthusiast and amature. :p
    To kick those “half yuan party” ass should be your mission…

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2360798
    emile
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    Do you have a source for this?

    Semms a Raptor fans is not going to believe it:)
    http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-77-start-105.html
    We will find that X-29 had the same data by google.
    Also notice it is no always better to enlarge the unstable data, so this is a reference not a ditermination.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2361520
    emile
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    In terms of my conjecture, the EF is the most unstable fighter ever built, with regard to static margin, F-22 and Rafale will come close, say about 30%, then next is Su-35 around 20% which proved by Chinese literatrue.
    Back to F-22 and Rafale, I even suspect that negtive static margin of Rafale is greater than F-22, notice that canards of Rafale deflected angle tremedously downwards during subsonic level flight.

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2362702
    emile
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    Come on … why should they build a “prototype” or “demonstrator” like that … without a weapon bay ?? Even the pure-tech-demonstrators YF-22 and 23 featured one. It would be completely stupid to build one with that different parts and later fly another one with the required internat changes with a bay.

    Deino

    Without weapon bay?
    Which you can not see it is the key of stealth:D:D

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2362825
    emile
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    I can only assume it’s something like F-18 E/F’s blocker, however no one knows untill T-50-2 comes out right?
    Or you have already got an idea of what does it look like?

    How does it demeged faster speed more than that “bump” then?
    Notice what the original post was:

    Thankyou for your input. I don’t get alot of time to study these things so thought it’d be quicker just asking.
    I’d think that if the TWR of the T-50 is similar to this bird then this J-20 will be the faster of the two………..

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2363605
    emile
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    I think he meant the radar blocker inside the inlet which indeed reduce the efficiency

    The bump of DSI actually contributes to pressure recovery as well as dumping boundary layer

    However I think supersonic LD ratio is more important than TWR in terms of ‘how fast they go’… Concord with TWR lower than 0.4 being a good example

    Again layout of J-20 abey area law better as well as providing positive pitch trim during cruise.

    Have you ever seen the radar blocker was mentioned by him in this page?
    Did you know what the Radar Blocker which would be fitted on PAKFA looks like?

    in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2363618
    emile
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    Ohh yeah? Non obstructed!
    What that bump would be then?

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