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Revised numbers
558,052 Americans died in the Civil War
116,708 in WWI
407,316 in WWII

I get a kick from many of you “shocked” Europeans preaching about how “neanthedal” and backwards American culture and Gun ownership is. I dare challenge my “outraged” European neighbors, who are so happy to be separated from the US by the Atlantic ocean, to add up all the murders in the United States due to guns from our founding in 1776 till today. Then compare that number with the waterfall of horrors inflicted upon all corners of the world since 1776 by my esteemed European breatheren, who seem to live on a higher cultural plane, and have attained such a high degree of enlightenment and sophistication that we dumb Americans can never hope to attain!
Lets start with all the horrors of colonialism, of which the mess today in the Middle East is a direct result of
Napoleanic Wars
Numerous other wars of the 19th century
World War One…Milliond dead
World War Two …Many more millions dead
The Holocaust…^ million Jews incinerated and gassed, Very Civilized!
And lets not forget the Great European derived philosophy called Communism, which has enslaved millions and killed many more millions…The list goes on and on!!

Now lets hear your smug replies to my friend Pluto.
One other aspect about the whole gun ownership debate, is there are literally millions of guns in the US, It is very naive to believe that if the US banned gun ownership today, that the “bad guys” would turn them in, and there would be no more gun violence….its a very left-wing way of looking at the issue, idealistic but of no practical consequence…the guns will still be around and the bad guys will always get them!! sad but true,
And just remember, with all these Americans toting guns and taking target practice, it should make you all feel that much safer, since our boys will probably have to cross that Ocean your so glad exists and bail you out again from the next mess you start!!! Maybe if the French owned Guns the Nazi’s wouldn’t have had such a walk in the park as they entered Paris in 1940 as well as all those other European capitals that we liberated…
PS Michael Moore is a liar, with an agenda
I enjoy debate, but some of you haven’t a clue and preach from a high perch,
The US isn’t perfect, but when you guys were running the show all hell was breaking loose every decade or so…………The world owes Europe a tremendous debt, but You have many more warts than America can ever earn !
TTP

Heres one number I just found, At the end of 1944 the Famous B-24 plant at Willow Run michigan was producing a B-24 bomber every 63 minutes!!!!! and there were 5 other plants in the US building B-24 Bombers……This gives you an idea of the power of US industry….and how the Germans could have never competed or won! You forget the US was fighting the Japanese at the same time!!! Imagine how many fighters we could have built if we needed if we were completeing an entire B-24 every 63 minutes in one factory!!
TTP

Robbelc,
The Provost is owned by Mr. Mike Dale, ex CEO of Jaguar North America. He’s the reason Jaguar has been sponsoring many aviation related events in recent years. He was an ex-vampire pilot, and He flew the provost in training
TTP

Cheguvera,

Your really stretching it! If you get a chance read a book called “The making of the Atomic Bomb” by Richard Rhodes, It is a fascinating and very interesting book…The Germans were activley trying to develope an Atomic weapon, they just were looking in the wrong places scientifically….Undoubtably if Hitler hadn’t invaded Russia the war would have lasted longer but the Allies would have still won…….By 1946 it would have been B-29’s leveling Germany, and Meteors and P-80’s vs Me 262’s either way the Germans could not defeat US production….in my opinion.
TTP

Cheguvera,

Undoubtably the Russians delivered the massive blow to the Germans, and consequently suffered and inflicted,by far, the largest amount of casualties. However The writer fails to take into account American industrail production. Unhindered by bombings, American industrail might would have defeated the Germand easily, Hell, in one month we were producing thousands of planes!!!and everyone seems to forget one VITAL FACT>>>>BY AUGUST 1945 GERMANY WOULD HAVE BECOME AN ATOMIC PARKING LOT!!!!!!!!!!! b-29’s and Mustangs would have been roaming free all over the skies……….Lancasters would have been dropping A-bombs as well!!!!!
TTP

Sharmaji,Vymple

Before you get too excited, try reading a history book or two and take a look at Germany, Japan, Italy, Western Europe, and South Korea…Now compare those countries with the Former Eastern Bloc…and North Korea…and then you can spout off about what a rotten nation The US is!!!!
Go ask the citizens of these nations how horrible life has been since the US has played a part in their rebuilding/occupation?
I just saw the movie Shrek today with my kids, it is amazing what we can do with technology, Americans have been to the moon, made life better for the entire world, and your ilk sit around and try to figure out how to bomb and kill innocents on trains or in offices!!! please give me, and the rest of the world a break!!!

Arthur,

From an American perspective, there are very few areas where the government does a good job. There are far more areas where the government does an inefficient, wasteful, and inferior job. The less government the better! A population or nation who rely on the government for their well-being is a stagnant, listless, and uninspired people.
Take care,
TTP