and, it must be said that nowadays most of the established ‘archives’ want to charge a FORTUNE for repro-rights – we know, we’ve looked into it – to give an indication, it’s $10s per second – and that’s not counting the cost of getting it digitised in the first place!
We have got the entire 19 hours worth of footage that William Wyler shot for his Memphis Belle movie – he was working as a Major (as was his staff) for FMPU USAAF, therefore that makes the material public domain, but the archive that has it wants to charge professional digitising and repro rights for anything other than personal use – We’ve spent the last two years trying to interest TV companies to work with us on it and are still ‘in negotiation’ but at the moment no-one seems interested, and – at over $70K – we cannot afford to do it ourselves!
It’s pristine colour, 18 hours worth I doubt has ever been seen before – apart from B-17s, it shows B-24s, the US Bond Tour, formation, take-off and landing shots… numerous UK bases in 1943, Cambridge, Royston, London… We’ve ID’d the aircraft, Groups and most of the locations… Sad to say – but it’s like a lot of the footage in Pathé, IWM and the RAFM – not gonna be seen in anything like the quality it deserves and by the people who would appreciate it!
Hi Graham
Don’t want to ‘take advantage’ of your knowledge of contents of Wyler footage, (I do really) – BUT do you recall any of the 92BG B-17E’s at Bovingdon, or indeed any shots of Bovingdon apart from those I’ve seen on the Memphis Belle DVD’s. — Or when the aircraft were with the 97BG.
Regards Dave & Mike
(15 years into research on Definitive History of Bovingdon – Station 112)
See thread ‘Bovingdon – Station 112’
This shot was in the defunct ‘PLANES’ magazine Vol1 No1…..my guess the 2nd B-29 in the UK , the 1st being the ‘HOBO QUEEN’ in 1944….anyone know the background?
Feb 26, 1944 Project 98070, also known as the Pathfinder Project using airplane YB-29 41-36963 ‘Hobo Queen’ left Marietta, Georgia, for Bayamon P.R. to go by southern route.
March 1, 1944 Ordered back to Marietta to take northern route to UK.
March 6, 1944 Left Gander for St. Mawgan
March 8, 1944 To Bassingbourn. Flew to British and American bases testing runways for weight carrying capacity and letting the Germans take pictures at high altitude…the object to make the Germans think the B-29’s were to be used against them. The airplane was shown to many visitors such as Churchill, Eisenhower, Tony Spatts, Air Chief Marshal Tedder, etc.
Known to have visited: – Glatton, Burtonwood, Knettishall, Horsham St. Faith and also Bovingdon where General Eisenhower was in attendance.
April 1, 1944 Left St. Mawgan for Marrakech at 00:56 and flew 2 hours west before turning south to Marrakech.
April 2, 1944 Left Marrakech to Cairo
April 5, 1944 Cairo to Karachi
April 6, 1944 Karachi to Kharagphur.
Brian, – Thanks for the ‘in depth’ reply, – I knew nothing of this very interesting and ‘touching’ ending to such a tragic event. I have visited the scene of the crash.
Regarding 42-30131, I have a B-17 weather ship listed from Bovingdon wartime records departing on 02. Feb 1944, as missing without trace over Atlantic – pilot Lt. Grafton. Is this, that particular aircraft ? Presumably it took off on the evening of the 2nd and was missing on the 3rd.
I have no further details.
Regards ——— Dave
Brian – Tell me more, – I’m intrigued !
Dave
Dave,
No photos I’m afraid, but do you have anything on B-17G (42-37744) that crashed on take-off at 1856 hours on 9 December 1943? If not I might be able to help. It was the start of a weather reconnaissance flight and one of the crew was a British Met Air Observer, Flt Lt H H J (John) Leigh-Clare.
Brian
I do have the full Accident Report of that crash. – Thanks for your response Brian !
Regards Dave
Bovingdon Air Station 112
Thanks David, – viewed the link. I had read about the ‘REDS’ dropping in there.
Absolutely no info’ / confirmation on that though. Would be good if someone had pics of them at Bov. Heard another one, from a friend who was on the Fire crew at Bov in the 50’s. An early Comet test flown by Cunningham dropped in there due to weather. Allegedly, everyone came out on the base and was ‘blown away’ to see him do a rapid climb out take-off the next morning. Can anyone confirm ?
Dave