Not without a miracle.

Total Russian exports 2005 about $245 bn. Imports $125 bn. Surplus $120 bn. Foreign reserves $180 bn (end 2005).

China: 2005 exports $750 bn, imports $630 bn, surplus $120 bn. Reserves $795 bn end 2005. At that rate, it’ll take Russia about 125 years to catch up.

Japan exports $550 bn, imports $450 bn, surplus $100 bn, reserves $1000 bn (early 2006). So Russia will catch up in only 40 years. :diablo:

It’s worth looking up some figures before making statements like that.

check this also. China/Japan exports will level off in near future because there is limit what West can consumer there products. u just wait when russia creates Ruble denominated commodity exchange and the rest of raw material countries follow it. it is the currency that matters not the product.

http://www.cbr.ru/eng/pw.asp?file=engpress60511_135043eng_res.htm
The External and Public Relations Department of the Bank of Russia announces that the Russia’s international reserves equalled $231.1 bn. as of May 5, 2006, against $225.7 bn. as of April 28, 2006.

I know the circumstances related to that program very well. But these are good reasons too, to dim the exspectations to the 2015/20 time scale. The Russians are looking for foreign cash (India or China) to secure a number of fighters to be built. The Russian procurement-numbers in mind do not justify the related costs. So there is a high intrest from the Russian side, to keep that program as lively and capable as possible.
Why not?! But I am not comitted to bolster advertisement claims, see my critics about F-35-program f.e..

Russia is not looking for foreign cash for PAK-FA. that is old story. there is a big change in there fortunes and if they manage to build pipelines to Asia by 2009. there is not only 5th generation fighter but another Tupolev bomber is also.only MIG light fighter is for export.

I think Sukhoi project is at more advanced stage compared to MIG.

http://www.armypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1057
MiG Builds Alternative Jet Fighter Of Fifth Generation

Klimov FGUP works has forwarded an engineering evaluation note to Mikoyan MiG Russian aircraft building corporation (RABC), which contains propositions on engine for a light jet fighter of fifth generation. A light jet fighter of fifth generation is developed by MiG RABC and Klimov FGUP works at their own cost. The state future jet aircraft development program envisages a future aircraft design elaborated by the group of companies led by Sukhoi corporation to be used as a prime aircraft model.
As Klimov works director general Alexander Vatagin stated, an air engine, developed by the company, would be featured by a number of unique performance specifications. In particular, it would not have life service limits: engine modules and units to be replaced as they would be worn out and have their service resource expired without need to dismantle engine from a plane board. The power unit might be exploited and maintained in broader temperature and altitude range. Its design would permit to start it up at high altitude. One more feature, which the engineers embodied in the engine, is its specific weight, which would not exceed 0.1. The engine to be equipped with an all-aspect angle rotary nozzle and electric remote control system (ERCS stands for Russian acronym EDSU).

Within the framework of the state program to develop an aircraft of fifth generation, Russian companies carry out activities in two major application lines: to develop light and heavy jet fighters. They are to be equipped with same avionics, but differ, first of all, by a number of power units: one or two air engines to be installed, respectively. A prototype of I-21 heavy fighter might be taken aloft even in 2006-2007. At present I-21 engineless aircraft has been already ‘blown out’ in a wind tunnel, all performance specifications have been verified. Further activity on the project to develop fifth generation fighters to be carried in pursuance to the State armament development program adopted for 2006-2015.

To remind, Indian Minister of Defense Pranab Mukherjee announced during his last November visit to Moscow that his country would be interested in joint development of fighter aircraft of fifth generation. To tell the truth, the minister noted, that Sukhoi corporation designs were not meeting his intentions, as they were at rather advanced implementation stage.” Mukherjee stated, that he liked some designs elaborated by MiG RABC, which he saw in working drawings.

Here’s where you made the statement:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=667873&postcount=77

Once again, you stated: “Pak tests only those things which are Successful and Operational.”

For one, a system cannot be considered succesful without being tested first. Strike one.

it depends where the system is first developed.

Second, anyone who puts a system into operation without testing it first is an idiot. Strike two.

it is depends when the user want to reveal to public. if it is a failed project no point in discussing in public.

Lastly, the last time we got into this you tried to respond with “I stated that Information about the Tests are only revealed to public when the thing is already in service.” Which is clearly not what you stated above. Strike three, you’re out.

how it is not the case.? u have to show me anything tested which is not in service or in service in very near future which can happen only when it is already in service.
good to see that S-300/India is ended.

So every missile system made now can fulfill all roles including the ABM role? That would be “one missile for all defense purpose”.

where i said every missile system? only offer to India is the comprehensive one.

And yes, your Pakistani argument was wrong, claiming that they only test systems after they’re put into service. Want me to find all those quotes again, because I’ll do it. Again.

so prove it my statement about pakistan is wrong?. show me one single system that they have tested and it is not in service.

The ranges I mentioned are distances from points in China to points in India, not actual missile ranges.

so how missile ranges will be differetn from actual distances. it can be much more in case of missiles because of height that missile has to gain.

Are you sure that, with all their missiles, China is going to target its one or two JIN-class SSBNs and JL-2 SLBMs on India, when that’d be overkill in terms of range? Logic is awesome.

are u sure that there will be one or 2 SSBN with China in next 10 years? considering the Industrial capacity they are building.

10 years and 10 billion doesn’t necessarily mean what you’re trying to make it mean. It’s like 300 million for an S-300PMU-1 battery. If you figure $500 million for a full-up S-400 battery, you get 20 batteries for 10 billion. And that’s assuming that none of that money might go to finishing the S-400s development, especially in terms of the long-range 40N6 missile.

so by ur logic russia will wait for 5years of negotiation with India to complete its S-400 system? time has changed they dont need that money. there is other reasons behind that. and as early as next year actual s-400 is coming into service.

Now you’re changing your argument to fit previous statements…here we go again, it’s Pakistani testing of only operational systems all over again!

I am not changing the argument. i have said one missile system for all defense purpose. and my statement about Pakistan hasnt been proven wrong untill this point. where they have tested a system which is not in service.

It’s a little over 3000 miles from Beijing to southern India. Since missiles aren’t going to be fired from Tianamen Square or the Forbidden City, you can use a range of about 2200 miles from the coast near Hainan to southern India. That is far from being intercontinental range. Try again.

the report that i read clearly mentioned Chinese rockets. (not from Pak which has ranges what u mentioned.). so they are looking at enhanced capability.

And an SLBM attack? That’s hilarious, given that they have one operational SSBN with absurdly short-legged JL-1 SLBMs.

are u sure 10 years from now it will be the same? that is the time line given for implementation.

And how exactly is an S-400 a system of “limited ability”? When it comes to an ABM intercept it has zero ability, but when it comes to anything else…

so why do u think they need 10 years and over $10b for this system? (which is comparable to $20 to $30B in western case). current S-300/400 systems are irrelevant in India case. Russia simply does not want to lose India to US ABM system and after signing of IPR this enhance offer.

So Rafael’s SpYDER can engage ICBMs now, is that it?

is there any claim associated with spyder hitting any billistic missile?

You have little clue what you’re talking about here.

surely i have no clue. what about new offer to India that will protect it from all kind of missiles (rocket) from China. they say it will take 5 years of negotiation to build such a system.

In order to engage a tactical ballistic missile you need certain radar and missile performance figures. To achieve an ICBM intercept you’re playing a whole different ball game.

is this so difficult to figure out that intercepting ICBM requres high performance radars and speed. the point is S-300 is not a static system.

Because it’s the software, combined with the hardware, which gives you your capability. Without the software all you have is a pretty expensive, pretty crude birth control device.

why would be its software logic so different when every thing else is similar just like Kopyo and Zhuk.

So the 53T6, the 46N6, and the 9M92 all have the same role? How many ICBM intercepts can the 9M92 accomplish? That’s the point. Any military weapon is designed to destroy a target. They are, however, designed for different roles.

first i havent mentioned individuval missile rather i emphasize the system. and separate system for separate role is thing of the past. or it is also possible that unified missile system hasnt reached the operational service yet.

Sergey Drozdov, deputy commander of the air defence missile brigade] The probability of hitting a target, depending on the type of the target and its reflecting surface, is between 0.9 and 0.98, i.e. very high. When you launch a missile, you can be confident that the missile will hit the target.
The main virtue of S-400 is the ability to resolve tasks of both strategic and tactical air defence. Triumf is capable of destroying not only warheads of ballistic missiles flying at the speed up to 5 km/hour but also targets like hanggliders.

[Aleksandr Lemanskiy, captioned as designer-general of the Almaz Scientific Industrial Corporation open joint-stock company] There will a next step. This step is connected with introducing high-potential radars that use a new class of antennae – active phased-array antennae nets – and high-speed missiles to equip air defence missile weapons .

Channel One TV, Moscow, in Russian 0420 gmt 14 Aug 05