This was a Liberator too. Crash in Benghazi 1942. No serious injuries! Thanks to Tony Tubbenhauer for the photo.
There is a bit of one in the museum at Sharjah. In fact it is from G-AZHJ.
So did they.
I didn’t know a Twin Pioneer could carry so many people!
Photo c/o John James. Oman.
Nothing much else from me, I am afraid. The mystery of the disappearing remains of the crew is as impenetrable as ever. No-one has volunteered any first-hand evidence, at least not on this thread. Jackflash, who seemed to know a lot about the subject, joined the forum on 7 October, posted a couple of messages and has not been on the thread again since 8 October.
Nothing is lost, except opportunities. We have to discount the red herrings (400 years old, not Copping etc etc) that have been thrown at us. Those bones could be recovered without too much effort and analysed. But the immediate area under and around the wreck should have been carefully investigated just in case poor Dennis was still there then.
Qattara said that they reburied the bones near the rock where they found them as they had been asked to do so by the authorities.
Totally agree. See my post number 6 above. We now need to get the bones and examine them forensically. That should not be too difficult, in order to dispel the fairy stories that have been perpetrated about them and get to the scientific truth.
An earlier Pipistrel. Doing the preflight. Ain, France, March 2005.
Andy: I made similar points to Capt Collins in three emails I sent him, viz who tested the bones and when, and what tests were done. My question is now simply, “Why did he not reply?” The 400-year-old bone story is ludricrous if they were never examined, which seems to be the case. If these remains are not of Dennis Copping, we must find out, and it would be relatively simple to do so. Microscopy for the age, and DNA for the family links. Why, oh why, cannot the Defence Attache tell us the truth and nothing but the truth? We owe it to Dennis’s family to get to the bottom of all this. If it were simply that we are asking the impossible, then OK, that is one point of view and someone should tell us, but it is not mine. And I want to know why this is being covered up.
Yes, there are many lost airmen to honour. But here we have one whose aircraft has been recovered in a remarkable state of preservation, and of whom there may be remains available. In order to prove, or disprove, that these remains are of Dennis Copping it would mean a relatively modest effort. To find any other remains would be more difficult, but worth undertaking. The surviving family members have stated that they want their nephew found.
The silence of the official lambs is scandalous, as is the apparent indifference of certain of them, and the rank laxity of others.
Well said Pat. As I have said on many occasions on each of the P40 threads, the remains found by the ARIDO team could easily be recovered and tested. The whole concept of them being 400 years old could be laid to rest, and their relation, if any, to Dennis Copping easily investigated.
You want it low and smokey? Here are two for the price of one.
Lausanne 2011. I was on runway security duty so it smelled of smoke too!
A skyfull of smokers. Also at Payerne 2004.
D1566: I suppose they mean “crate”. In the photos I saw it looked like a shipping container.
Peter: That is the question! Why did the “authorities” write off those bones, even suggesting they were ancient, I mean hundreds of years old rather than tens?
This is how the Italians do it. Frecce Tricolore about to take off, Payerne 2004.