Aerial refueling could also give away your position :D. I invision a nice flame out the back when the residual fuel left in the line from the refueling probe goes in the the intake.
I hope, they think about this problem, when they will be refuelling UCAV’s in near future!
fightingirish
Foto list
1 + 2: Typhoon T1
3 + 6: EMB-312 Tucano
4 + 5: British Aerospace Jetstream
7: Slingsby T – 67M Firefly 260 Defence Elementary Flying
Training School
8: PLZ M-28 Skytruck Plus
9: nose RAF E-3D Sentry
Background: Dassault Super Etendard
10: Piaggio P.166
11: USAF KC-135
12+13: USAF C-5
14: USAF KC-10
15: Dassault Mirage IVP ERS 01.091
16+17: RAF Hawk T1A
18+25: USAF B-1B
19: USAF U-2
20: British Aerospace (D.H. / HS) 125
21: USAF F-117
22+23: RAF Tornado F3
24: GAF Tornado ECR
Hi folks, I hope my list is right!
Send me a message, if I should edit the list!
fightingirish
Bring_it_on,
you’ll find the information under the F/A-22 Raptor homepage.
Btw, this homepage has been refreshed!!!
fightingirish
Tornado version
Was there not a single-pilot, delta-winged version of the ADV Tornado planned?
I remember seeing a pic.fightingirish
Yes its called the Eurofighter Typhoon!
No, Phil Foster!
I remember a cocept pic of a Tornado version with a shoulder and arrow-type wing (not a delta wing, my failure ๐ฎ ), single pilot and RB.199 engines.
I do not also mean the BAE EAP!!!
fightingirish
Was there not a single-pilot, delta-winged version of the ADV Tornado planned?
I remember seeing a pic.
fightingirish
F-35 EOTS
Here some information about the Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS).
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=13751&rsbci=0&fti=126&ti=0&sc=400
Especially the JSF EOTS Product Card (pdf-format) is very interesting!
figtingirish
3rd time !!!
This is the 3rd time these pictures are posted on these boards…
The first four F-5Es are supposed to be delivered Juli 1st with Austrian paintscheme on. Immatriculation numbers are:
J-3005, J-J-3030, J-3033 and J-3065.Source: flugzeugforum.de
Not ALL subs are black!!!
Hi folks,
remember the movie “Operation Petticoat” from 1959 starring Cary Grant & Tony Curtis!
Their sub had special camouflage!!! ๐ ๐ ๐


fightingirish
T-38 sucessor ?!
I would not wonder , if the USAF or the NASA buy the T-50 past 2010 – as a successor of the T-38 T-38 Talon!
But maybe then they will have enough F-16B/D ‘s and F-18B/D ‘s to train pilots and astronauts!
fightingirish
Which escort system is better ?
Which concept is better, to escort and protect a V-22, C-130 or later the Advanced Theater Transport (ATT) into forward operating areas?
Bell`s tilt rotor concept or Boeing’s Canard Rotor/Wing (CRW) concept :confused:

How about this-
Grumman FAAV
An early 1990’s design for a VTOL troop support/anti-tank aircraft for the United States army.
http://www.up-ship.com/apr/volume3.htm
From the same link:
http://www.up-ship.com/apr/contents.htm
Bell/Boeing Armed XV-15
A brief, one page article describing an early 1980’s idea for making a ground attack version of the successful tilt-rotor testbed

Maybe something like that, just 30 years later
fightingirish
You made my day!!!
Bmused, Go raibh mรญle maith agat!!!
fightingirish
RIPConcorde, I didn’t start a new thread, because the members were still discussing, which carrier(s) will buy the 7E7.
I just wanted to confirm what Bmused55, WiLag and Thomas Cook were discussing this morning!
Personally, I don’t matter, that you started a new thread.
I understand your point, that maybe some members and especially guests might miss my post.
Please edit your post and add the concept drawing of Blue Panorama’s 7E7!!! ๐
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmused55
thats cool!
i’ll do my customary side view tonight
Bmused55, can’t await your concept drawings!!!
fightingirish
Boeing Names First 7E7 Dreamliner Customers in Europe
Boeing Names First 7E7 Dreamliner Customers in Europe
– Leading leisure and scheduled-service carriers to order 10 7E7s for fleet renewal and expansion
– Operators will set trend for efficiency and passenger comfortSEATTLE, July 7, 2004 — The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today confirmed announcements that Blue Panorama of Italy and First Choice Airways of the United Kingdom have selected the 7E7 Dreamliner to replace and expand their existing airplane fleets. These two carriers are the first in Europe to choose the 7E7, the world’s newest, most advanced commercial jetliner.
In separate press conferences in Rome and London , the carriers announced plans to acquire a total of 10 7E7s, valued at $1.2 billion at list prices. Blue Panorama will add four 7E7s to its fleet at a value of $500 million and First Choice will receive six 7E7s. Contract negotiations are expected to conclude later this year. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2009.
“Today’s announcements are ringing endorsements of the 7E7’s broad appeal across a spectrum of airlines,” said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Europe , Boeing Commercial Airplanes. “The 7E7 has the versatility and flexibility that allows airlines that offer scheduled or leisure service, or a mix of both, to adapt to their own evolving business models and to the dynamic demands of the market.”
Both carriers have selected the 7E7-8 model, with a range of 15,700 kilometers. This is 4,000 kilometers farther than today’s similar-sized airplanes, which will allow 7E7 operators to economically connect hundreds of new destinations for world travelers.
Blue Panorama and First Choice are in the process of evaluating their engine options, which include the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) and Rolls-Royce’s Trent 1000.
As these airlines join the launch team, they will be the first in Europe to benefit from the advanced economics, improved fuel efficiency and reduced noise of the 7E7. They will be the first to offer passengers a new, more comfortable flying experience, in cabins with larger windows, wider seats and wider aisles.
“Blue Panorama and First Choice will have a clear, competitive advantage over carriers operating more conventional aircraft,” Dailey said
The Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner is being designed with airlines, passengers, investors and the environment in mind. The technologically advanced airplane will use 20 percent less fuel than today’s airplanes of comparable size, provide customers with up to 60 percent more cargo revenue capacity, and present passengers with innovations including a new interior environment with higher humidity.
Boeing launched the 7E7 Dreamliner last April when it announced an order for 50 7E7s from Japanese carrier ANA, followed by an announcement by Air New Zealand for two 7E7s. Boeing has proposal acceptances out to more than two dozen airlines around the world and expects additional orders in the coming months.
Blue Panorama
Blue Panorama, headquartered in Rome , started operations in 1998. This privately-owned, all-Boeing operator currently flies five 737-400s and three 767-300ERs and will take delivery of a fourth 767-300ER in December. This year Blue Panorama expects to carry nearly 900,000 passengers on its charter and scheduled network extending across the Mediterranean , the Middle and Far East , Central America and the Caribbean . Over 70 percent of its long-haul operations are scheduled flights.
First Choice
First Choice Airways, based in the UK and previously known as Air 2000, is part of the Mainstream Holidays division of First Choice Holidays PLC, incorporating some of the largest brands in the UK travel industry. Other companies in the division include tour-operating brands such as First Choice Holidays, Unijet, 2wentys, Eclipse Direct, Falcon and JWT. In April 2004, the company, which focuses on offering its passengers a differentiated product, redefined the standards of long-haul charter flights by becoming the first European carrier to install the Boeing Enhanced 777 Interior in its 767 fleet.
Additional 7E7 Information
The 7E7 is a family of airplanes in the 200- to 300-seat class that will carry passengers on routes between 6,500 to 16,000 kilometers (3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles). The 7E7 will allow airlines to offer passengers more of what they want: affordable, comfortable, non-stop, point-to-point travel to more destinations around the world. In addition to bringing big-jet ranges to mid-size airplanes, the 7E7 will fly at Mach 0.85, as fast as today’s fastest commercial airplanes, while using much less fuel. Also, for the first time in commercial jet history, the 7E7 family will offer a standard engine interface for the two types of engines to be offered on the airplane, the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) or Rolls Royce’s Trent 1000, allowing the 7E7 to be fitted with either manufacturer’s engines at any point in time. Production of the Dreamliner will begin in 2006. First flight is expected in 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.
thats cool!
i’ll do my customary side view tonight
Can’t await your concept drawings!!! ๐ ๐ ๐
fightingirish