Slightly off-topic, but watching the news, I was under the impression that NATO set up a ‘no fly zone’ to avoid Libyan aircrafts to bomb civilian peaceful protesters. But here I only read about rebels… I’m quite confused. Some even suggest that those rebels might have taken SAM sites? Shocking 😮

Nic

its not a new method that pak fa has something like this?

Even the Mirage 2000 has this…

Nic

From another thread…

AASM Hammer is a great weapon. It will be great to see it on Typhoon…..;)

It would be great for the typhoon indeed. How many and where would they carry it and on which pylons?

I suppose you could fit 3 of them on the inside wing pylon and still carry 2 fuel tanks and 1 LDP. Not too shabby.

Nic

Please stop bringing the Swiss evaluation into this thread. Everybody knows that the swiss air force consists of very unprofessional spoiled brats who are only interested in wearing sunglasses and flying the biggest hotrod on the block with little regard to the budget allowed or operational efficiency.

Hopefully politicians are there to remind them how to conduct themselves professionally and patriotically.

Nic

A RWR provides a bearing indication and range estimate at best with the associated emitter ID if known.

You get a gross idea of the direction the contact flies… ie you’re in its radar cone (maybe sidelobes could give an indicator about the angle? I don’t know at all). I suppose that you also get an idea of its altitude too, since your angular resolution will be the same vertically and horizontaly. If you have angle & range, you can derive an estimate of the altitude.

I know it’s not comparable with a radar track, far from it, but it’s not just the range and bearing either.

Nic

And also how useful are super long range BVR missiles? The answer is “How good is your targeting?” If you can target the enemy at extreme ranges, then it is beneficial to possess a missile that you can shoot at him before he can shoot at you. The first shot wins. Even if you don’t hit him, you force him to go defensive, spoiling his ability to shoot at you. Get him to bleed energy to escape the first missile and the second missile has a better probability of getting him. If your enemy is flying stealthy airplanes that you cannot detect until you are within 20 miles, then long-range super missiles are a wasted effort.

Super long range missiles could also be useful to take a shot at the supporting aircrafts of those stealthy airplanes (tanker support, awacs support), and deny them the ability to either stay on station as much as needed or to remain stealthy by being guided by awacs and force them to turn on their own radars.

Nic

‘Effective’ meaning what?

Cheaper yes, but then that Jaguar fleet will be able carry out at least three times as many sorties in the same time period.

Besides, you’re totally overlooking the point that I was illustrating – the Rafale is being acquired for its multirole capabilities, and if air superiority is assured by total coverage of airspace by AEW&C aircraft, you’re better off with a bomb truck. Quit nitpicking.

I’m not nitpicking I’m pointing out your BS.

1 Rafale in 1 sortie will strike just as many targets as your three jaguars, with much less chance of being shot down.

As for defensive abilities, no sane air force will defend in the blind only sending fighters looking for targets with their own radars. Rafale with it’s TV channel enabling it to identify targets at about 40 km and an IR missile to attack them at same distance or even more is perfect to carry out intercepts in an integrated network.

Nic