There are precedents from Navy planes flown from land:
http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/small/309/309904.jpg
And I’m not talking of the Russian naval aviation which operated lots of planes including fighters.
Nic
Actually let’s amend it to all aspect VLO, and the F-35’s stealth materials should set the standard for ease of maintenance and durability.
So the F117 is a 5th gen aircraft?
Nic
I never heard of (from an official source, not forum folklore); however, even if true, an EF/Rafale with one EFT still has less than 2-2,5 tons less fuel than the F 35. this means that the F 35 can go in “min. AB” as much as the mentioned fighters in SC.
More fuel doesn’t necessarily translate in more range. It very much depends on fuel consumption and drag. The volume of fuel carried is meaningless if consumption & drag aren’t equal.
Nic
If they want something that is carrier capable/something that could challenge the Typhoon and the F 35, they should simply get Rafale M.
4-5 squadrons and Falklands War II can begin !!!!
Well would definately allow to easily retake the falklands if the argentinians were so inclined.
Nic
Ouais, bin je n’ai pas vu de fan de Rafale dire quoi que ce soit à propos de cet article.
Edit: oops I wrote that one in french. It means that I didn’t see any of the “Rafale club” ranting about that. Lack of spare part has hardly anything to do with the quality of a plane.
Nic
Post edited with the links. I recognise my style in the titles of the III and IV versions 😮
Nic
RIP to the guitar & typhoon’s chances in India :diablo:
It’s not what i asked. Can a rafale fly >1 M with min. AB?
I don’t think so. The throttle between 50% and 100% is used for decoration purposes, and AB is there only to make more noise pimp my ride style.
Nic
I thought the title sucked, so I made a new one.
Now be quiet or when the Typhoon thread gets closed I will made one with a very silly name and you will be stuck with it for 30+ pages! :dev2:
Nic
Can a conventional fighter fly in supersonic with 8 tons of fuel and 2.5 ton of weapons in min. AB? Guess not…
I don’t know why it wouldn’t.
Rafale does M0,9 at 50% throttle with 2 2000L tanks, 6 AASM and 4+ Mica. (that’s 2,5 tons of weapons and 8700L of fuel).
Nic
I guess now we have to scratch supercruise from the list of the 5th gen requirements 🙂
Lets amend it to:
VLO stealth from the front
Internal weapon carriage.
Expensive stealth maintenance
:diablo:
Nic
Not really Nicolas. There are some breaks and sometime the link arn’t in the first post and not even the first page (I remember a Rafale thread started by Jackonimo without the links: a clear evidence of a conspiracy to sabotage our Rafale threads :D)
But if you want I’ll try to gather all the links tonight, just if you could stick them in your first post after…
Ok if you want to dig them up I’ll add them in the first post.
Nic
In every Rafale news thread there is a link to the previous one on the first post 😉 so you can find them all if you so desire. And this one makes no exception.
Nic
Rafale news part XI
Let’s have our Rafale News thread with a proper title.
Older threads from earlier to latest:
Rafale news 3/4/2007
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=68250
Rafale news part II : we go on 7/17/2007
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=72432
😀 Rafale news III: the return of the revenge 4/21/2008
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=80325
He is back! He is angry! Rafale News Four! 11/13/2008
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=85983
Rafale news V : 12/3/2008
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=86497
Rafale news VI 4/15/2009
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89966
Rafale news VII 6/22/2009
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91892
Rafale News VIII – more about everybody’s favourite French fighter 11/12/2009
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95672
Rafale news IX 12/3/2009
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=96119
Rafale news X 9/15/2010
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=103455
TR1’s Rafale thread, part 11 6/13/2011
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=109702
And today, we can read some very interesting “Rafale news” threads, such as the one on MP.net :
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?137433-Rafale-News
Hello to those friends who are doing a great work on MP.netSince Kovy is the guru :D, no surprise he created the Rafale news blog !
http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/
Edited with TMOR’s info
Nic
It would have been nice to see Harriers on the Charles de Gaulle operating alongside Rafales and SEMs.
Nic