they can say what they like till they get the ng sensor
perhaps a french site will have more credibility for you
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.air-defense.net/forum/index.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dommtgf8pk6cr5vsc9srdj26gf7%26topic%3D6796.50&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhiIhqRKthUTR0aKNYfnfD1XoRrTaw

faltenin said he works in the industry and has tested both, read some of his posts and make up your own mind

I don’t know why you say I need convincing, the link I gave told pretty much the same info as faltenin. Besides I found it in one of HIS posts on a french speaking board.

this seems accepted
ir sensor
mica 3rd gen,
asraam, aim-9, iris 4th gen
python5 5th gen

I disagree about the 3d gen vs 4th gen. The document (official) that was linked clearly implies that the choice for the mica was made between 2 technologies and they picked theirs instead of the one used on the ASRAAM. Besides in the link you provide, faltening says he is unsure of how both technologies compared in terms of field efficiency.

I find it hard to be as categorical in this seeker classification. The way I see it, it’s more a choice between longer detection vs better counter countermeasures.

CF page 256 of the french navy document: La matrice, théoriquement plus sensible que la barrette, permet l’obtention d’une portée
supérieure. Mais la détection bispectrale, permettant une résistance supérieure aux
contre-mesures, est une solution plus facilement réalisable avec des barrettes. C’est elle
qui a été choisie pour le Mica, avec deux barrettes.

Translated into: The matrix, theorically more sensitive than the stick, allows for longer range. But bispectral detection, allowing for better resistance to counter measures is more achieveable with sticks. That solution has been chosen for the Mica, with two sticks.

Nic

Homing head
Imaging IR 128×128 element focal plane array

Focal plane array too for the Mica as proven in my last link. I can’t find the resolution, but without the Mica resolution at hand I don’t see how you can claim the ASRAAM is any better. Do you have it for the Mica too?

Nic

who said a hms gives a 360 ? it wasnt with a hms, it was actually off-board, like the mica. but obviously a hms can deploys a loal missile anywhere in his viewing area
how is the rafale hms going ?

What exactly does the ASRAAM has that the MICA hasn’t, besides inferior range? 😉

No video? What a surprise 😮

I have a scanner, but I have no clue where I put that issue of le fana :confused:

That’s french organisation 101

Bird strike, not from enemy fire. The affair was revealed by an aviation magazine reporter – you know how many reporters (,foreign spies,) and aviation buffs were watching the runways, right? I had a friend that told me that it hit one on the way out and had to return. The russkies like to prop up their little brothers in Serbia because they use their equipment.

A bird cut half of one vertical stabiliser? That’s a little far fetched if you ask me :confused:

Nic

I’d say it should be a plane of the A1 family with a turboprop. Especially in the multi-seats layout.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:051123-F-1234P-004.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:051123-F-1234P-012.jpg

It would have long range (battlefield persistance), and a decent loadout. It could come in two seats side by side layout for CAS, and more for CAS+punctual/urgent very light transport of people or material, and there could even be a UAV control version.

Nic