And you’re working for the Ru minister of tourism, right? Not really a rejoicing perspective we have here…
R-60 is carried for
1. when a visual is needed like in peacetime
2. for self defense.
Why so aggressive?
OMG Putin shot down a DC3 & a Catalina!
Pic or it didn’t happen.
Nic
Indeed it very much smells like BS.
Well you can’t go wrong with Apaches Es regardless of the performance of the Mi28. I think this whole debate is moot.
Nic
Well given the USAF didn’t exist at the time, I guess it’s North Vietnam :angel:
What are you smoking? The Australian F-18 E/F contract is expected to be in the range of 4.5-6 billion for the 24 aircraft with all the FMS training and support/logistics for the initial decade of use. Remember, FMS estimates are usually high and are revised lower as needed.
(2.3 billion for the initial FMS: aircraft, spares, training, 1.5 billion support/logistics contract + several separate weapon, decoy, 0&S contracts since 2007.)Here was the 2013 FMS contract proposal for additional F-18:
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/australia-fa-18ef-super-hornet-and-ea-18g-growler-aircraft
3.7 billion for 12 F-18 E/F, 12 Growler with the following additions: 6 spare engines, 35 radars, 80 JHMCS, on and on.Or the 2015 FMS sustainment contract here: http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/australia-fa-18ef-super-hornet-and-ea-18g-growler-aircraft-sustainment
WTF are you on? 6 bn for 24 planes translates almost exactly to 9 bn for 36 planes.
Nic
Not how offsets work. Your assuming that the 50% offsets double the cost of the contract. Considering that what the IAF is looking for is both : a platform and some of the associated technology. Without the details on what type, and what specific offsets are included other than some value associated with tech transfers, it would be near impossible to parse exactly how much of this contract is associated only with procurement of the aircraft.
220 / 2 = 110 not 150.
But you are right on one thing, it’s impossible to figure out the real price of the plane for this contract from the value of the deal.
Nic
Non jihadi iraqi’s have never made good soldiers. They don’t fight, period. GW-1 and GW-2 where pretty good examples of iraqi soldiers lack of fighting capabilities. Ukraine with little to no help and with a third world military has done an okay job against russian soldiers.
What a load of crock. Insulting at that.
Nic
For 36 airframes that works out at around 220 million Euros per airframe? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy F-35s – how much did the USAF pay for its F-22s?
Remove the 50% offsets and you fall to 150 mil / Plane. With support, weapons & infrastructure it’s not nearly as expensive anymore.
Nic
did you read your own link?
The myth of the flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages in Europe saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLJaggNIfE0
Nice PAK-DA concept on the second part of this video.
Nic
It’s not a refueling probe it’s a luneburg lens.
Nic
Swedish air force tests new aircraft operating concept.
New concept “Two vehicles with trailers as well as six aircraft technicians can prepare and equip a JAS 39 Gripen. “
And me who thort that a Gripen could be maintained by 1 technician & 5 conscripts.
Nic
They are training to kill jihad joe.