Since Rafale was politically unacceptable for the RN’s carriers, Hawk is politically unacceptable for France. Period.
Nic
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I shoul point out here that F-22’s don’t need an enemy to be emitting from its radar to use the AN/ALR-94 because datalinks, radios, IFF signals and the like are more than enough to formulate and take a passive missile shot. That’s what the AN/ALR-94 is there for.
Well, same could be said of SPECTRA, which means that if neither fighter turns their radars on and stay in EMCON mode, the Rafale should be advantaged because it has an IRST & a TV channel contrary to the Raptor.
Nic
I got a good laugh out of that, I mean, what kind of logic do you use to come up with such a conclusion. What you’re effectively saying is tht elite Israeli pilots have nothing on rusty old Mig-31pilots. Wonderful humour mate.
He says that you get more proficient training 150 hours a year on one single mission that training 220 hours a year on several different missions.
Nic
Still would be an advantage over current types. As most don’t have near as much internal fuel.
It’s still a moot point as long as you aren’t comparing payload vs range datas. The amount of fuel is totally irrelevant.
Plus, if they carried a similar weapons load. They wouldn’t have the pylons available to carry external tanks.
Still not comparing range but fuel available. Is there an issue with the JSF range figures? Because you sure don’t want to tackle the issue it seems.
BTW what’s the range of the JSF when carrying 6 250kg extented range smart bombs + 6 BVR/IR missiles?
Also, once the weapons are released the F-35 would be totally stealthy again. Which, couldn’t be said of any 4/4.5 Generation Fighter.
Irrelevant as they’re on the way out. Stealth is good to penetrate dense IADS, not to exit once you have penetrated it in an unstealthy way.
Nic
Dark times for the arsenals of democracy.
Democracy’s air forces don’t need all that much training since they are attacking everyone and their mothers these days. They probably have more combat time than the russkies have of training time.
Nic
Yeah, it could easily carry six 2000 lbs Class PGM’s, two AIM-120D’s, two AIM-9X’s and a 25MM Gun Pod no problem. All with 20,000 lbs plus of fuel…….IMPRESSIVE IS RIGHT
Depends what range you get from those 20000lbs of fuel in this config.
Nic
Well sooner the pilots are out of aircrafts the better. Then politicians could carry out inhuman order with much less people in the loop. At some point I bet they can even press the button themselves and nobody will ever know about it. Good morning mass murder and human sacrifice.
Nic
At the end of the day both sides are absolutely bloody awful so why support either? The Al Nusra front might well be worse but that doesn’t make it acceptable to support the other chap just because he”s not quite as bad becasue he (Assad) is still a realy terrible brutal leader. I wouldn’t want to live under the rule of either side and I doubt you would to.
So in my opinion its stupid American administration for supporting the terrorists and stupid Russian administration for supporting a brutal dictator.
The russians are just preventing the US to meddle once more in a country just for their own profit to the detriment of the stability in the area. Stability is no such feat in the area, and Assad provides it whatever you may think of him (provided the work think is appropriate when you just parrot media garbage).
Nic
Why not more alphajets? They are pretty nice.
Nic
(I don’t think its worth pursuing this debate any further for reasons that are obvious to all.)
Indeed. Let’s close the debate on something we both agree on 😉
Nic
The ruthless dictatorship of very bad guy Assad is western media propaganda. I’m asked by the mods to cut the political arguing, but it’s hard to do when people just regurgitate what they see on TV on a regular basis. Have you been to Syria? Have you been persecuted by the Assad regime or know people who have? Aren’t there a countless number of other ruthless dictators which noone want to invade because huge gas reserves haven’t been found offshore?
You can’t kill people for whatever reason. Especially when those reasons are none of your business in the first place. Or if they are it’s because you want the oil/gas/reason to buy loads of weapons.
Then at least admit it and say: “we want the oil/gas and we want every country to have a private central bank”.
In Lybia, the french people have quite a lot of blood on their hands. And all the blood that is going to be spilled in the next few hours will be on our hands too. We do also have a lot of syrian blood on our hands. And I don’t want a single drop more, even if it means I have to buy a horse because I can’t afford gas.
Nic
– The choice of the Yak-130, obviously, would need first a total change of our foreign policy toward Russia, I cannot see it happen before quite some time.
It would be a shame if the Yak 130 was discarded for political reasons considering the deal we have made with Russia for the Mistrals. We can’t sign juicy contracts with Russia when it benefits us and shun them when it doesn’t.
Nic
To be fair Russia is already pretty much isolated when it comes to Syria as it appears to be just them and Iran wanting to keep Assads tyrannical dictatorship afloat and when it comes to the overall world scene Russia is not a country with many allies as it is, let alone friends though thats hardly suprising considering how they act. As much as I despise dippy Dave he’s certainly not deluded in this case.
Stop spreading the BS you read in the news, and we won’t be forced to counter with BS we read on the underground media.
Nic
No air trainers. More Rafales.
Mistral for Yak 130 is nice though.
Nic
I notice the Jon Lake article is from August 2010 and although I don’t speak French the video says 2009 at the 22 second mark. I wonder, could he have been reporting on different event a year later?
The article clearly refers to ATLC 2009, as mentionned in the beginning of the second paragraph. Now the question is, does the dogfight video actually represent one of the dogfights that occurred at ATLC?
Nic