The role of the Jaguar is deep penetration strike. The tejas is hardly suitable for this. I think the Jaguar will be replaced by the Rafale in the role.
Nic
There are official statements that the pilots meant to fly Su-30SM, Su-35S or PAK FA are going to be the best of the best from Russian “stockpile” and that they are going to receive proper training. Otherwise there is no sense in having super-maneuverable plane if you can`t use it`s full potential.
This is the best example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fvL-KqdIT-c
Operational plane with operational pilot.
I don`t think that the Russian pilots are less talented and according to officials they are not going to lack training.
I don’t think anyone said that the russian pilots aren’t good or well trained, the point was that it would cost much less to train your pilots to become proficient in a Rafale than in a Su35, thanks to much lower operating costs.
Nic
I don’t want to say this man is a poor tactician or anything, he might be just as good there as he is in piloting skills, but I think tactics & training will beat pure piloting skills any day of the week.
Fonk survived the war and got 75 kills in the process, while Guynemer was shot down seven times and eventually got killed.
Nic
Actually, that’s a pretty good summary.
Nic
Rafale isn’t in the same class as the Su35. There will be a huge comparison in operating costs. It’s more in the class of the Mig35, and even then I still believe it would cost less to operate than the Mig.
That said I think the Rafale would be no easy meat for the Su35.
Nic
Or else you can have a Rafale do buddy/buddy refueling on the way.
Just saying…
Nic
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I’m very much in agreement with your sentiments expressed here and have found your dismantling of the spurious counter “argument” interesting and educational; if you do respond i’d be happy to read it on new RWR thread.
+1
The SPECTRA does not have to ability to detect, track and get a fire solution on another jet from afar. It can tell if its being radiated and gain a proxy sector and altitude from which this radiation coming from.
It has been said by Thales or Dassault officials that it actually can, like a few other EM suites (F22 for instance).
Not sure where you get this 2X range over any radar? Sources pls!
Easy, the wave from the radar has to go all the way to the plane and back. So when the targeted airplane receives the radar wave, it’s still twice stronger than when the radar emitter will receive it. Sheer logics.
So if the Irbis-E can detect Rafale from 200KM, then the Spectra will detect this from.. 200KM.. or 400km, not sure what you even mean with this X2 range..:confused:
In theory 400 km, which is also the distance the wave will travel if it goes 200 km to the rafale, & then 200 km back to emitter.
Oh, and go easy on this widly RCS claims. You know nothing about them, as do nobody else. The Su-35 will most likely not carry external fuel tanks prior to BVR, but the Rafale certainly would;)
In AtoA scenario all is possible. A Rafale may even carry CFTs and no external tanks, provided its customers chose to order them.
Nic
1/ Ditch the F35
2/ Take back the technologies that US gov money paid for & give them to Northrop
3/ Ask Northrop to develop a fighter within a fixed budget (Developer to pay any extra cost).
Nic
http://russianplanes.net/images/to102000/101623.jpg.jpg
Ka-226s in a new shelter.
Looks like it’s straight from an episode of thunderbirds.
Nic
I guess we can all have a coffee & a ganool.
Nic
If the “High Value Target” was immobile (e.g. a building), you would use a cruise missile. But if the HVT is a mobile TBM launcher, you have to locate it with a sensor and guide a PGM. This probably means your AASM or standoff missile is useless.
And expecting your SPECTRA programmer to be smarter than the SAM fire control programmer is a questionable bet.
Good luck with that…
Bingo.
I actually don’t understand the design rationale behind F-35.
Suck up european military aviation budgets & kill european military aviation.
It has worked quite well so far (see the lack of development of the Typhoon), but it remains to be seen if they ultimately reach their goal.
(alternate goal was to milk the US taxpayer).
Nic