I’ve no idea where Zare is getting his figures.

You have to recall that typically a quoted range is a 90% probability of detection figure. That means you might get lucky and pick up a target significantly further away.

Zaslon has no real operating modes per se. It operates in a TWS like mode.

Target Detection vs 3 sq m RCS
Head on: 120-130km
Pursuit: 45-60km

Target Detection vs 16 sq m RCS

Head on: 180-200km
Pursuit: 60-80km

Deception jamming requires DRFM, IFM- none of these subcomponents was available in Russia.

Well, thats what you said before, and its clearly factually challenged. ANY form of jamming other than purely noise based jamming is deception jamming. For example, range and velocity gate pull-off techniques that have been around for many decades. Was India able to procure something as good as Elta 8222 from the Russians in the late 90s? Probably not. The small matter of the collapse of the Soviet Union, etc etc.

Can you build a deception jammer without DRFM? Of course you can! What do you think all those 1970s ECM systems did – noise jamming alone?

The book is by Ildar Bedretdinov and others, its going to be the comprehensive history of the Su-27 family. One of the credited authors is Vladimir Antonov, one of the original designers of the Su-27.

The first part covers the initial development from 1969 up to the T-10 prototype and is 370 pages.

An English version of Part 1 is supposed to debut at MAKS, with Part 2 in Russian coming out at the same time.

Wrong info, wrong conclusions. Don’t even bother discussing it…

Troll.

aerospacetech, thats an interesting site you have there- I have a funny feeling that I am going to lose alot of hours trawling through all the information there!:eek:

If anybody knows I would be interested to know where the Tornado design evolved from becouse its similiarity to some early 1960’s british paper designs (which were intended to enter service in the early 70’s) is quite startling.:confused:

The Tornado configuration is a blend between two designs. BAC’s design was derived from the UKVG, which in turn was derived from the AFVG (Anglo-French Variable Geometry. I’m not sure of the history behind MBB’s design. MRCA/Tornado was a blend of the best features in each design.

There’s more info in the British VG Projects topic on my site:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,468.html

I’m pretty sure they’d get in a whole heap of trouble releasing a true image of PAK FA. Its no more official then any other picture.

As luck would have it, I’m writing a long article/short monography on the P.1121 for publication later this year.

The P.1121 has its origins in Hawker’s P.1103 proposal to F155/T (OR 329), as a dedicated high altitude interceptor. Hawker’s proposal wasn’t popular, as it was more realistic (and hence lower performing) than some of the others. However, Camm was encouraged by some to redesign the P.1103 for the strike role, which became P.1116. P.1121 was seen by Hawker as potentially a dual purpose machine, a bit like a US “Phantom”. Unfortunately, the UK was obsessed with hugely ambitious projects to intercept Mach 3 bombers at 80,000ft (OR 329), and strike over huge distances (GOR 339), and Hawker were unofficially encouraged to spend their own funds on P.1121 as a “fallback” just in case budgets for the other projects were cut.

In retrospect with official backing P.1121 could have been a great Hunter followon, and a rival to the Mirage III, Phantom II and MiG-21.