Indeed some great photos MikeJ! Hadn’t seen them before but I’m glad you provided the link!
The landing incident that grounded the Buchon during the filming of Pearl Harbour can be found in the AAIB archives here .
Great photos!
Now is it just me or is the pilot of that second Polikarpov looking a bit on the short side? 😉
Two differences between the 24 and the 47 that strike me immediately are the prop (of course!) and the air inlet for the carburettor. Because of the prop arrangement there will be a more pronounced gearbox noise and different aerodynamic sounds, and with the extended air inlet on the 47 the ‘mechanical’ noise from the front will sound different too.
Can someone find the specific types of Griffons in both types?
Noise characteristics are difficult to pin down. With a recip engine there are two different types of noise. Listening from the rear you hear mostly the exhaust and through this the sounds of combustion. From the front however what you hear is mostly mechanical, valves opening and closing (especially through the carburettor air inlet), the prop gearbox and other assorted noises. Now add a prop to this and you also get aerodynamic phenomena, such as airflow over the prop and shockwave effects at tips sometimes. With a contra-prop you will have interference of these aerodynamic bits so the sound will change somewhat. The third variable is airframe installation, as cowlings can dampen some sounds but also add a vibration spectrum to the whole game. For example you will hear more valve noise at the front with a short air inlet as on a radial, compared to a longer air scoop as on the Seafire. As mentioned above the exhaust is also a big factor as different lengths and shapes can have a large effect, think of the horns section in your local orchestra and how all those pipes make different noises.
Just a few thoughts.
Great sight!!! Can’t wait for more photos 😀
And to confuse the replica issue a bit: the Dutch Spitfire flight had a replica of MK732 that they carried around during the days when they were fund raising. The photo below shows it at the 1991 Dutch Airforce open day at Twenthe airbase. A few years later MK959 was exchanged for a replica, could this be this same example???
And photo 2. The others are just variations on this theme.
Finally dug out my old photos. So here’s MK959 sometime in the late 80’s I think, just after refurbishment having been recently refitted to it’s pole. The gear was fixed in the up position a couple of days/weeks later.
I always liked the Sea Fury in Dutch navy colours, just because it was different (and a bit because I’m Dutch of course).
I’ll just add this photo (Zoersel/Oostmalle Airshow 1991, Belgium):
Hmm, imagine that…
“Well son, now that you’ve finished training and will be posted to a squadron I’ve decided that for your 21st birthday I will buy you your own JSF/BAe Typhoon/”
“Your mother and I don’t want you risking your life in one of those government subsidised ones. I’ve taken the liberty of choosing the elephant-leather ejection-seatcovers for you and your mother has picked out the panel colours!”
😀
Aaah, found the wrong mixed-propulsion type. But isn’t it at the New England Air Museum, Windsor Locks, Connecticut then?
Why? They expelled him from Maine perhaps??:D
I’m guessing a Ryan XF2R-2 Dark Shark. Still figuring out the where and why though.
Difficult subject. But about the volunteers, I think that with any organisation depending on volunteers it is very difficult to get them all ‘in line’. They are donating their time and effort, and although certain rules are logical, in other aspects it can be difficult to ‘control them’ (so to speak) as they have no official obligation to you. This can be both good and bad. Many of the volunteers at Brooklands have very close ties to the site and talking to them you are getting first hand stories from sometimes extremely knowledgable people who worked there or were otherwise connected to the site. The drawback is that you also get peoples personal opinions through these conversations but you cannot avoid that much. Personally, both as a visitor and if I would be running a museum, I would gladly accept the drawbacks for the benefits of getting or providing an extra ‘service’, namely the stories and experiences of the guides.
Now that we’re offtopic anyway: seeing the Seafire made me think of this example. Apart from the fact that it looks good and probably flies pretty nice, how accurate is this installation? Did a contra prop Mk XIX ever exist?

Hmmm, the ones my sister usually wins with her horses are at least a bit more colourfull! 😀