MarkP

…I did say disciplined. 🙂 …and it might have needed a bit of moderator massaging and channeling to finesse it.

The fact is some of the best photogs in the business decamped from Flypast and I regret that, ‘attaboys’ for Damobbofence notwithstanding.

Mark12

A rather surprising development on another site seemingly frequented by those photogs who decamped Flypast over the segregation of photos from the main board -………..

has been the creation of a similar dedicated photo thread due to the main forum getting swamped, and other contributors with-holding other content?, and with a further request to photo contributors to limit their threads to one per show to avoid swamping the photo forum itself.

The greater surprise is that the move is accepted seemingly without any complaints or apparant departures, a marked contrast to the same situation when it occured at KP?

I still support that outcome at KP and now at that other site, for those wanting to enjoy airshow photos its not hard to find the sub-forum and view them, for those less interested the main board doesnt get swamped.

I think the recent development at that other site clearly vindicates the earlier decision here at KP, despite the strong opposition at the time, and the unfortunate decision of some to take their bat, ball and camera and go home?

regards

Mark Pilkington

MarkP

…I did say disciplined. 🙂 …and it might have needed a bit of moderator massaging and channeling to finesse it.

The fact is some of the best photogs in the business decamped from Flypast and I regret that, ‘attaboys’ for Damobbofence notwithstanding.

Mark12

Mark12,

It is a pity some of those good photographers have departed KP, and I recall that situation when it arose, and yes many departed to create a competing forum site where they largely remain active today although I have noticed many have drifted back to make the occasional post here, although at the time there was opposition to some of the KP mods mixed up in the issue as well, over and above the shifting of photos into a dedicated forum.

Interestingly one of the arguments put forward to keeping them in “historic” was that KP itself perused the pics for possible publication, so departing the site totally would seem to be closing off that option not only for KP but also the photographer?

My issue at the time was that modern photos from RIAT etc didnt sit well with the apparant “Historic” focus of this particular thread, and the volumes of photos were dominating the threads at various airshow times, I have to admit I dont venture into the photographic section much at all, but if that is the situation for most of us that wouldnt seem to support shifting the photos back into “Historic”? simply to force an audience to be aware of them? to have to admire and comment? or have them deleted?

I view both sites, however still find KP carries more of interest to me, and occupies my time to a greater extent. At the other site they have retained the mixed forum of photos and other threads, and certainly we can all visit that site to view the “missing” photo efforts if that is what we wish to do.

Thats not to say I dont enjoy reading the other site, or participating in threads of interest.

However again the “market has spoken” as that other site has had @ 40 new or active threads over the last 7 days (14/7 to 21/7) compared to @125 in KP not accounting for multiple posts within any thread (which I suspect is much higher within KP), suggesting many others remain happy with the KP arrangement and content?

I guess the great thing is all of the posts and pics are simply a couple of clicks away in your favourites list, regardless of anyones dis-satisfaction with the audience response to their photo shoots, and the relegation of them to a dedicated forum on KP or a whole other site?

Similarly I’m unsure we really need country specific sites such as KP versus Wix or even Warbirdz, I am personally just as happy to tour all 4 sites as to read it all on one site, many posters duplicate their entries on a number of these sites, but the different sites all have their local allegiances and provide for local content and focus, so I guess diversity is great, and each to their own.

regards

Mark Pilkington

[QUOTE=Flying-A;1437182]Thanks for the link! Whether flying or standing still, the Sabre was and is a beautiful plane. And adaptable, too.

By the way, I’ve seen the CA-27 called the Avon-Sabre. Was that an official or unofficial name?[/QUOTE]

While the RAAF seems to have commonly referred to the aircraft simply as “Sabre” in service, the “Avon-Sabre” clearly seems to be an official name utilised by the manufacturer CAC as evidenced by use in:

1. Lawrence Wackett’s Biography – text page 194 and photo caption page 196 both listed as “Avon Sabre”.

2. The official CAC history “Wirraway to Hornet” title of Chapter 23 – “Avon Sabre”, photo caption page 151, and 3-D drawing in appendix IX page 275 both “Avon Sabre”.

3. Official 50th year CAC publication “Aircraft and Aero Engines 1936-1986”, listing for both CA-26 and CA-27 as “Avon Sabre”.

I am not sure the name was’nt originally taken up by the RAAF when the aircraft was introduced into service and the Avon dropped in later use and by enthusiasts and historians? as the AWM records a number of RAAF photos captioned as Avon Sabre including this one donated by Dickie Cresswell

http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/P01254.150

I havent sourced a copy of the RAAF purchase contract to determine how it was termed in that document, but I would consider the Avon Sabre was an official name at least from CAC’s point of view.

This CD copy of a RAAF Manual available on an ebay type website would suggest the official RAAF name was also “Avon Sabre”.

http://www.oztion.com.au/buy/auction.aspx?itemid=5691320

Regards

Mark Pilkington

Peter

Apparantly its the white long outline seen in the smaller reservoir located at 55deg 55′ 59.28″ N & 4 deg 45′ 12.34″ W it is shown as “an unconvincing object” in the register article, but the main photo shows the larger reservoir, which is further to the west.

The daily record link had this comment from a reader that points to this other smaller reservoir and the item in the photo

billgkerr, it is in the smaller of the two pieces of water in the picture.If you look carefully at the north bank you will see a series of dots in a line.Thats the spot.

Would seem relatively easily to confirm? or resolve?

Regards

Mark Pilkington

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I have been lucky enough to pick up some original manuals on ebay over the years including a DH86 Express and DH89 Dragon Six recently, but I have noted some are “more” original than others!

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MODERN IMAGE MANAGEMENT BRINGS THESE ACTUAL ERA MILITARY PUBLICATIONS DIRECT TO YOU

http://cgi.ebay.ca/RARE-ORIGINAL-LANCASTER-BOMBER-AIRCRAFT-MANUAL-WWII-RAF_W0QQitemZ370226597493QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CPV_Aviation_SM?hash=item5633398e75&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1215%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Regards

Mark Pilkington

What happened to the DH Dragon fuselage re/built by Mothcair (Chalinor Bros – Murwillumbah, Australia) and exported to the UK?

Has the aeroplane been completed and in flying condition?

Ross,

Yes it has, – This is it! VH-AQU /DCX = G-ECAN

The fuselage is the re-built example by MothCair

Regards

Mark Pilkington

For me, the real passing was Lennon, everything else pales into insignificance, …….As far as I’m concerned, Jacksons passing has saved us from the inevitable up and coming media crap over his concerts. .

I am a large fan of Lennon’s, and no great fan of Jackson’s, not that I dont consider some of his work quite impressive, its just I’m not a fan.

Although his attraction to children was not “normal”, I am not sure the paediphilia accusations were true, and in anycase he was never found guilty of such.

However Peter, I dont see why you feel a need to denigrate Jackson? he was obviously suffering some behavioural problems throughout his life, but no one can deny his musical genius, let him rest in peace, especially on a day when his fans are mourning, he was a fellow human being, and too young to die, regardless of what you thought of him, or his music.

regards

Mark Pilkington