what about them?
the roasters of course.
Not much room for locking suspects in the boot
Flood.™
OH! 😮 they lock them? I thought they’d simply run them over 😀 .
Yes Steve I know, but that vedio looks like any amature Hollywood director could do, may be even less experiensed, that really bugs me.
my point here is that ANYbody could say what ever he wishes when ever he wishes, the vedio date still CAN NOT be verified, the abuse scandal has been around for months now.
As far as I know the statement read out on the video footage referred to the prisoner abuse at Abo Garib jail and was used as “justification” for Berg’s murder, kfadrat.
Steve
Yes Steve I know, but that vedio looks like any amature Hollywood director could do, may be even less experiensed, that really bugs me.
besides Berg’s family is pointing the finger at the FBI now!
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/096E3A97-49C8-4C13-A055-EFA66A609E4F.htm
Berg family points finger at FBI
Thursday 13 May 2004, 15:35 Makka Time, 12:35 GMT
Family and friends of slain Nicholas Berg are angry that the US government denied he was in their custody in Iraq.
As the body of Berg arrived back home, mystery surrounded not only his disappearance but also why he had been held by Iraqi police for about two weeks and questioned by FBI agents three times.
Berg’s family disputed US officials’ claims that he was never in US custody.
“The Iraqi police do not tell the FBI what to do, the FBI tells the Iraqi police what to do. Who do they think they’re kidding?” Berg’s father, Michael, told reporters from his home in a Philadelphia suburb on Wednesday.
The FBI said on Wednesday it learned on 25 March that Iraqi police had detained Berg. The agency said Berg told FBI agents he was in Iraq to acquire contracts for his communication towers business.
The intelligence agency said its agents emphasised the dangerous environment in Iraq and encouraged Berg to accept an offer from the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in Iraq to facilitate his safe passage out of the country.
“Mr Berg refused these offers,” the FBI statement said. “He also refused government offers to advise his family and friends of his status.”
A family spokesman, however, rejected the suggestion that the 26-year-old Berg turned down a US offer to get him out of the country.
“The idea that they offered to get Nic out and he turned them down, knowing his life was in danger, I don’t believe that,” neighbour Bruce Hauser said.
Lawsuit
On 5 April, nearly two weeks after Berg disappeared in Iraq, the family sued in a Philadelphia federal court and named US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld as responsible for their son’s disappearance.
Berg was missing from 24 March until his release on 6 April, when he told his parents he had been detained by Iraqi police in Mosul. He disappeared again on 9 April after telling his parents he was looking for a safe way out.
Dan Senor, spokesman for the CPA in Baghdad, said on Wednesday that Berg had not been in US custody before or after his arrest. But US authorities in Iraq are nominally in charge of Iraqi police and the military.
Senor said Berg was visited three times by the FBI for possibly suspicious activities, but determined he was “not involved in any criminal or terrorist activities”.
Detention
The Berg family contend that their son had already intended to leave the country on 30 March but that his detention prevented him from doing so.
Berg first worked in Iraq in December and January and returned in March. He was inspecting communications facilities, some of which were destroyed in the war or by looters.
Michael Berg also told AP that Nicholas’ paternal aunt, now deceased, married an Iraqi man named Mudhaffar, who became close to Nicholas. In one of the emails, Nicholas Berg describes going to the northern city of Mosul, where he had met Mudhaffar’s brother, identified as Muwaffaq Mustafa.
“We got along splendidly,” Berg wrote. “We spent a few hours and I helped him establish an email account.”
Berg notes that “my presence … made him more concerned (about his own safety and probably mine too) than I’ve been the entire time I’ve been here.”
‘Rumsfeld responsible’
A website video on Tuesday showed a masked man cutting off Berg’s head. Berg was dressed in orange Guantanamo-style overalls.
According to reports, the audio portion of the video, which was originally credited to the Muntada al-Ansar website,
claims the killing was in revenge for US torture and humiliation of Iraqi prisoners by US soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison.
“I still hold him (Rumsfeld) responsible because if they had let him go after a reasonable time or given access to a lawyer we could have gotten him out of there before the hostilities escalated,” Michael Berg told a US radio station on Tuesday.
Aljazeera.net cannot verify the source of the graphic video
Aljazeera + Agencies
I haven’t been involved in many non-aviation topics as of late, but this recent string of events in Iraq (i.e. the killing of Nick Berg as well as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal) causes me to ask a few questions because I’m curious about reactions from people in other countries.
fact twisting the American way – actually good old Israeli way – good call PII, the way you first you meantion the death of a single American who was killed LATER then you meantion the suffering of THOUSANDS of – worthless in you opinion – Iraqis whom were abused EALIER, very good.
who says Berg was killed as revenge for the Abo Garib attrocities? do we even know when he was killed ? and knowing that he was in IRAQI POLICE custody for two weeks before being – ALLEGEDLY – kiddnapped by this Zarqawy who no body have ever seen … adding to that that his dad started a law suit againist the AMERICAN ARMY accusing them of holding his son … that the son was released from IRAQI POLICE custody the next day then kiddnapped two days later what do we conclude???.
knowing also that the ratio of mercinaries – ops I mean contractors – to soldiers in Iraq has become 1:13 I think we can’t now blame what’s going on in Iraq on a punch of terrorists from the AL Qaeda non-exsistent group can we ?
let’s NOT forget that FOUR foriegners were arrested AFTER the Karbala bombings – then mysteriously released – we would think a thousand times before accusing anyone of anything.
the ONLY solution in Iraq is for it to be SET FREE of ALL foriegn presence.
In Britain it is a throw-back to the late 60s and early 70s – flowerpower and that sort of thing.
By the time punk came along you could not call ‘punkettes’ chicks; then political correctness cast the term aside. If you were to attempt to make connact with a member of the fairer sex in Britain by calling her a chick then she would naturally form an opinion of the kind of gentleman you are – and you might just escape with a slap on the cheek (retro partys not included!).Flood.™
aha, I see, well I wouldn’t try anything with British chicks believe me 😀 .
now … would anybody tell me if the chicken looked cooler after crossing the road?
I just love this
dude.
Hmm. Tastes like chickens… Chickens what?
Chicken – singular.
Chickens – pural.
Chicken’s – singular posessive.
Chicks – outdated slang for females, man. Groovy!Tastes like battery-farmed poultry product.;)
Flood.™
OH now I understand, so Chickens is the PURE form of Chicken right 😉 ?.
but what do you mean outdated ??? I thought ” what’s it with chicks and horses ” was STILL in active duty, when was it dismissed ?
I was wondering – as this IS an English speaking forum – is it Chicken or Chickens ???? cause the chicks are all over wondering if chick was plural or singular .
tell us about it Frank :devil: 😀 .
we DO need a devil sign you know.
I thought it would represent a new depth of boredom :rolleyes: .
very very bored, obviously.
Kfadrat™ .
Very very very very very!
Kfadrat™
I’m cloning Flood now 😛 .
very very very!