Sounds like a kid who knows he lost an argument. “You have your sources and I have mine!” Except Sprey, Kopp, etc are totally discredited and haven’t had access to any aspect of the F-35. Meanwhile the pilot in the podcast has a level of first hand experience only a handful of people on earth have.

…and that is the thing isn’t it? The pilots, engineers, and experts are the source of 90% of the favorable accounts of the F-35, while bloggers, fanboys and assorted nitwits are the ones with all the complaints.

You seem to take pride in placing yourself in that latter grouping and even seem to be genuinely surprised when reality stubbornly continues to track with the former.

You won’t fool me with your rant.. in fact, you could not care less about who has first hand experience and who doesn’t, the sad reality is you simply want to solely hear positive news and remove or ridicule ANYONE who has a critic word on the jet.. face it, most of the criticism regd. the F-35 doesn’t come from bloggers and fanboys as you’d like to put it, but from Pentagon as the single biggest future user… those are the folks who not only have access to first hand experience and all technical data, but also to financial and budgetary aspects of the program.. they know exactly what was promised and for how much, you can’t cheat a guy like Gilmore by installing another useful idiot claiming from the cockpit his plane is like an iPhone.. but it obviously works well for simple minds like yourself..

so, instead of being glad to have an eval and test guy who has kept a watchful eye on the promises and actual deliveries and thus de facto protected your own taxpayer money, what did you want to do with Gilmore? you wanted the guy removed !! :applause: :applause: :applause: dumbness at its best.. given this attitude, I would not be surprised to find the new chief a wholly different breed, nicely subsidized by LockMart in order to STFU and write positive reports..

But what do I care.. I am not paying this, anyway.. 🙂

Sorry if I offended you by listening to the podcast and posting a reaction. Did you listen to it? Did you find the rambling conspiracies of Spray convincing? Instead of adding sour, divisive comments, why don’t you try actually adding something constructive to the conversation. We already have one Haavarla adding irrelevant negativity.

Btw, isnt it interesting that so many jump to conclusions about the credibility of current pilots, and a retired Lt.Col, who actually has a wealth of experience, yet parrot poorly sourced, poorly researched, and clickbait articles from the likes of defense-aerospace and Pogo? At this late date, it’s pretty clear some of the more vociferous posters on this forum holding a negative view of the F-35 program are akin to the Roman inquisition charging Galileo with heresy- holding onto outdated beliefs as the evidence mounts that their opinions were flawed, yet too stubborn to amend views.

Let’s be honest here, in debates like these no one is interested in WHAT is being said, everyone only cares about WHO is saying it. Nomatter what argument would a guy like Sprey, Kopp or Sweetman ever present, for you and the likes it’s only ” a rambling conspiracy presented by that nutjob which should be got rid of”. And likewise, I am absolutely not interested in another pilot’s buttercream about how this plane is an iPhone among fighter jets.. most of the criticism regd. the jet has always been related to things which pilots have zero word, anyway (timelines, capabilities, cost)

Now, please, get back to the original post #2063, read it again and then tell me: who was adding irrelevant negativity?

As for the rest of the message, we have had many poorly sourced, poorly researched, and clickbait articles on other topics here and yet I do not remember anyone amend views or change stubborn prejudices. Don’t expect from others what you aren’t able to do by yourself. That analogy to Galileo is a moot point, the F-35 has not yet proven anything.

Case closed

Probably, but Saab thought they had it in the bag and overpriced. After having chosen Typhoon, the best option would have been if the socialist party just moved on and the air force got proper funding. Instead they went on to make the stupidest deal possible and the anti EF propaganda continued.

To my knowledge, the Austrian deal has been screwed by BAe who were tasked with marketing of the Gripen at that time.. well, unsurprisingly, given that they were playing it in favor of their own child..

There can be no doubt about it.. the T220 has already been integrated with the MiG-35, the Su-30SM shall be no exception. I’d be interested to see whether they would use it on older Gen aircraft like Su-24M2.

You obviously have not read the provided article.. It says RAF is introducing the Tytan new in-service support model which should reduce the Typhoon’s per-hour operating cost by 30-40% and thus get it on the level of an F-16.. Obviously that means that current operating cost is 30-40% more expensive than an F-16.

I’m not entirely up to date on F-15/16 production totals (let alone active fleets), but I vaguely remember the F-15 is well north of 1000 produced, the F-16 well above 4000. Let’s make it 5000 in all, to account for the fact that there has been attrition and retirements. Typhoon should be hovering right around the 500 airframe mark right now, with virtually all of those active, I’d assume – so on the face of it an order of magnitude difference, which would certainly count for something.

Regarding the PW/GE split I have no detailed info either, but let’s assume equal market share for both, so an installed base of 3000 engines for each. EJ200 would be 1000, which isn’t all that much less anymore – at some point the returns do start to diminish. Especially when you factor in (ok, not related to economies of scale, but still relevant) that the average F100/110 has clocked up a lot more hours than the average EJ200.

Feel free to correct the numbers, that was right off the top of my head.

While the number of Pratt and GE powered Vipers might be roughly comparable, the number of GE-powered Eagles within the USAF is zero. The only ones with the F110 are the multirole versions serving in Saudi Arabia, Singapore and South Korea.

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